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01-03-2016, 01:37 PM
RE: Bernie suffers a humiliating loss in South Carolina
Europe is 1/50th the size of the United States? Man, I gotta get a new map.

Yes, I know you mean the individual countries that make up the EU and periphery nations, but I'm counting them together since they form an economic collective in the same way the US states do. It's true, you can't base the entire nation's policies on what happens in Georgia, alone, by saying "It works in Georgia, so every state should do it", but when 49 other states do something successfully, and only Texas holds out, it may be time to start asking why Texas wants to remain the way it is. (I'm not picking on Texas, it's just an easy state to use as an example for discussions.)

The simple fact is that Sanders is just trying to bring the USA into the 21st century... or rather, back into the First World Nations list. Right now, all those "variety of factors" you mention seem to place us on par with many Third World nations, except for our elites who have rigged things this way. When you're wealthy, you don't have to worry about one illness (or something like having a baby at the wrong time in your career-track, since we don't have family/medical leave laws like the rest of the 1stW) destroying and/or bankrupting your family, if the insurance corporations manage to finagle one of their many loopholes against you; the rest of us do have to worry about that sort of thing.

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01-03-2016, 02:49 PM
RE: Bernie suffers a humiliating loss in South Carolina
(01-03-2016 01:37 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Europe is 1/50th the size of the United States? Man, I gotta get a new map.

I was referring to Denmark not the entire EU, since that's the model Bernie desires to emulate.

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06-03-2016, 07:16 PM (This post was last modified: 06-03-2016 08:29 PM by larry-new.)
RE: Bernie suffers a humiliating loss in South Carolina
Unless this country starts giving a damn about the well fare of its own people, we will continue to be unfavorably compared to others who do.

Bernie represents the wish to care for its citizenry that a wealthy country at the top of the heap could have. The idea seems almost foreign to us because our well being has been steadily eroded by moneyed interests, who are, you can be sure, lacking for nothing. We may never see a comfortable middle class again. The lack of universal health care and education will, in short order, insure our mediocrity.

Bernie's ideas need a revolution in thinking to bring about. He needs to run against a do-nothing Congress and insist they be replaced with representatives who know how to get things done.

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07-03-2016, 07:40 AM
RE: Bernie suffers a humiliating loss in South Carolina
(01-03-2016 02:49 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  I was referring to Denmark not the entire EU, since that's the model Bernie desires to emulate.

Why would Denmark being small make socialism more viable?

While I could be wrong, it generally seems that having large pools of people tends to spread risk out, making centralized systems more stable. The same principle applies to insurance. If you have two companies that provide the same type of insurance, and one company has ten times as many customers, that company is way less exposed to significant loss due to catastrophe. In addition, it's drawing from a much larger pool of stable and profitable customers.

Of course, when implementing government services, you'd have to take care to insure that they don't cost more than the taxes you're pulling in.
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