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05-09-2015, 07:44 AM
RE: Bible God is the Devil
(05-09-2015 07:36 AM)julep Wrote:  Belief in the holy spirit and the devil seems to operate in a theist realm to me, even if you don't have a supernatural being called god in your pantheon. But self-define as you please, I'm not going to say you can't call yourself an atheist.

I am. He's a theist; same shit, different name.

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05-09-2015, 09:17 AM
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(05-09-2015 05:52 AM)GodIsDead Wrote:  If you ask me, Atheism is what Christianity should have been, and would have been, were it not for Apostle Paul, who was the Serpent. (Acts 9:18 scales fell from his eyes, he rose and was baptized. Job 41:15 leviathan, his scales are his pride. Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him for a servant forever?)

All religion is the lie of the Serpent and comes from the Devil, who they say made the world in 7 days, where in Genesis they call him God, that story was taken from the 7 headed serpent.

So, while I think there was a guy named Yeshua who rebelled against the pharisees (whose idea it was that he should die for the nation) the lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, and the serpent was cursed above all. So it works out like this.

1) Jesus Christ is god of the bible.
2) God of the bible is really the devil.
3) All religion comes from the devil.

Therefore, god/devil/religion is dead for our sins, the end.

No need to convert to anything, just be a good person. Everyone is judged by their works. He admits he reaps where he didn't sow. None of those called enter the marriage feast. In fact, if you follow religion then you worship the beast.

The judgment is equally simple. The rich all go into everlasting fire. Those who give change, water, food, shelter, etc, when asked go into everlasting life.

Jews and Phoenicians exposed:

Jesus, the leviathan, 7 headed serpent god:

El Elyon, a Phoenician king who slaughtered his whole family and wrote the old testament.

The Bible is black and gold, the colors of Saturn / Satan. There is no one to pray to, as we are within what is considered God, is Love, or the Universe, or the living God of Spirits, etc. YHWH is father, mother, son, daughter, it's just the human body as the temple for the spirit. Reincarnation is the only truth, not karma. There is no justice, it's just us. Karma is just another excuse for the world to be a crapholp run by demons.

I keep it simple. The bible, having been found to be satanic, is the curse the christ man was turned into, he remains dead for sins for all time. He never rose in 3 days, Yeshua simply had a near death experience, he lived to be 80 and died in Kashmir. The religion that rose up around him was pagan sun god syncretism with mithra, dionysus, etc, based on Paul, and it's the oil that runs out at midnight.

So from my perspective, I'm an Atheist who believes god / religion is dead, I don't have to care, I still believe in the holy spirit, thats about it. I guess you could it call Christian Atheism, I searched for God and found the devil, so that's it, I'm out. "His sheep hear his voice, and he leads them in and OUT of the shepfold."

The serpent fooled the whole world, so why should anyone who is religious not consider themselves a satanist? This stuff is all being exposed, thats why those who find the kingdom of heaven within themselves, as it says, are as the 10 virgins. So do you research, and you'll have plenty of extra oil. The difference between wise and foolish virgins, is that a wise athiest will be able to fully justify himself according to the Bible, and there's not a damn thing the Satanic christians can say against him.

Wait, you're an atheist who believes in the Holy Spirit? Consider

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05-09-2015, 09:33 AM
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(05-09-2015 05:52 AM)GodIsDead Wrote:  If you ask me, Atheism is what Christianity should have been, and would have been, were it not for Apostle Paul, who was the Serpent. (Acts 9:18 scales fell from his eyes, he rose and was baptized. Job 41:15 leviathan, his scales are his pride. Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him for a servant forever?)

All religion is the lie of the Serpent and comes from the Devil, who they say made the world in 7 days, where in Genesis they call him God, that story was taken from the 7 headed serpent.

So, while I think there was a guy named Yeshua who rebelled against the pharisees (whose idea it was that he should die for the nation) the lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, and the serpent was cursed above all. So it works out like this.

1) Jesus Christ is god of the bible.
2) God of the bible is really the devil.
3) All religion comes from the devil.

Therefore, god/devil/religion is dead for our sins, the end.

No need to convert to anything, just be a good person. Everyone is judged by their works. He admits he reaps where he didn't sow. None of those called enter the marriage feast. In fact, if you follow religion then you worship the beast.

The judgment is equally simple. The rich all go into everlasting fire. Those who give change, water, food, shelter, etc, when asked go into everlasting life.

Jews and Phoenicians exposed:

Jesus, the leviathan, 7 headed serpent god:

El Elyon, a Phoenician king who slaughtered his whole family and wrote the old testament.

The Bible is black and gold, the colors of Saturn / Satan. There is no one to pray to, as we are within what is considered God, is Love, or the Universe, or the living God of Spirits, etc. YHWH is father, mother, son, daughter, it's just the human body as the temple for the spirit. Reincarnation is the only truth, not karma. There is no justice, it's just us. Karma is just another excuse for the world to be a crapholp run by demons.

I keep it simple. The bible, having been found to be satanic, is the curse the christ man was turned into, he remains dead for sins for all time. He never rose in 3 days, Yeshua simply had a near death experience, he lived to be 80 and died in Kashmir. The religion that rose up around him was pagan sun god syncretism with mithra, dionysus, etc, based on Paul, and it's the oil that runs out at midnight.

So from my perspective, I'm an Atheist who believes god / religion is dead, I don't have to care, I still believe in the holy spirit, thats about it. I guess you could it call Christian Atheism, I searched for God and found the devil, so that's it, I'm out. "His sheep hear his voice, and he leads them in and OUT of the shepfold."

The serpent fooled the whole world, so why should anyone who is religious not consider themselves a satanist? This stuff is all being exposed, thats why those who find the kingdom of heaven within themselves, as it says, are as the 10 virgins. So do you research, and you'll have plenty of extra oil. The difference between wise and foolish virgins, is that a wise athiest will be able to fully justify himself according to the Bible, and there's not a damn thing the Satanic christians can say against him.

I too will keep it simple - you say something about beingjudged and going to eternal fire. Can you prove it? Or you will quote Bible as a evidence or say you just feel this in your heart?

Also you're atheist who believe in holy spirit? Rolleyes

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05-09-2015, 09:58 AM
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If the god of the Bible is the devil, does that mean Satan is god? And which one created the world and which one rebelled? Are the definitions of "god" and "devil" based on which is the creator and which the rebel, or is it based on a subjective opinion of which is "good" and which is "evil"? Or is it a matter of which one will help humans and which will hurt us? I'd think the definition would be that the creator is god and the rebel is the devil, but that leaves open the possibility that god lied when he inspired the writers of the Bible, and only the devil can save us from eternal torment.

I think it's easier (and more rational) to disbelieve in both.

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05-09-2015, 10:07 AM
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(05-09-2015 09:58 AM)daniel1948 Wrote:  If the god of the Bible is the devil, does that mean Satan is god? And which one created the world and which one rebelled? Are the definitions of "god" and "devil" based on which is the creator and which the rebel, or is it based on a subjective opinion of which is "good" and which is "evil"? Or is it a matter of which one will help humans and which will hurt us? I'd think the definition would be that the creator is god and the rebel is the devil, but that leaves open the possibility that god lied when he inspired the writers of the Bible, and only the devil can save us from eternal torment.

I think it's easier (and more rational) to disbelieve in both.

Yeah, if the god of the bible is the evil one, then how can you put any stock in what the bible says? It was allegedly inspired by the biblical god, so his book would be a big fat lie. Nothing in it could be considered truthful in describing Satan's true nature.

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05-09-2015, 10:38 AM
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(05-09-2015 10:07 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  
(05-09-2015 09:58 AM)daniel1948 Wrote:  If the god of the Bible is the devil, does that mean Satan is god? And which one created the world and which one rebelled? Are the definitions of "god" and "devil" based on which is the creator and which the rebel, or is it based on a subjective opinion of which is "good" and which is "evil"? Or is it a matter of which one will help humans and which will hurt us? I'd think the definition would be that the creator is god and the rebel is the devil, but that leaves open the possibility that god lied when he inspired the writers of the Bible, and only the devil can save us from eternal torment.

I think it's easier (and more rational) to disbelieve in both.

Yeah, if the god of the bible is the evil one, then how can you put any stock in what the bible says? It was allegedly inspired by the biblical god, so his book would be a big fat lie. Nothing in it could be considered truthful in describing Satan's true nature.

Also satan is painted as kind of a dick in Job and in Genesis (along with several other places in the Bible)--why would he want these things written in his book? He could have just kept all the things about God (who did enough shitty things) and leave himself out of it.

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05-09-2015, 11:12 AM
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(05-09-2015 05:52 AM)GodIsDead Wrote:  The Bible is black and gold, the colors of Saturn / Satan. There is no one to pray to, as we are within what is considered God, is Love, or the Universe, or the living God of Spirits, etc. YHWH is father, mother, son, daughter, it's just the human body as the temple for the spirit. Reincarnation is the only truth, not karma...

I keep it simple.

You have an odd definition of "simple".

(05-09-2015 05:52 AM)GodIsDead Wrote:  I guess you could it call Christian Atheism, I searched for God and found the devil, so that's it, I'm out. "His sheep hear his voice, and he leads them in and OUT of the shepfold."

You are not an atheist. You are a misotheist.

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05-09-2015, 11:27 AM
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05-09-2015, 01:23 PM
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(05-09-2015 05:52 AM)GodIsDead Wrote:  If you ask me, Atheism is what Christianity should have been, and would have been, were it not for Apostle Paul, who was the Serpent. (Acts 9:18 scales fell from his eyes, he rose and was baptized. Job 41:15 leviathan, his scales are his pride. Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him for a servant forever?)

All religion is the lie of the Serpent and comes from the Devil, who they say made the world in 7 days, where in Genesis they call him God, that story was taken from the 7 headed serpent.

So, while I think there was a guy named Yeshua who rebelled against the pharisees (whose idea it was that he should die for the nation) the lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, and the serpent was cursed above all. So it works out like this.

1) Jesus Christ is god of the bible.
2) God of the bible is really the devil.
3) All religion comes from the devil.

Therefore, god/devil/religion is dead for our sins, the end.

No need to convert to anything, just be a good person. Everyone is judged by their works. He admits he reaps where he didn't sow. None of those called enter the marriage feast. In fact, if you follow religion then you worship the beast.

The judgment is equally simple. The rich all go into everlasting fire. Those who give change, water, food, shelter, etc, when asked go into everlasting life.

Jews and Phoenicians exposed:

Jesus, the leviathan, 7 headed serpent god:

El Elyon, a Phoenician king who slaughtered his whole family and wrote the old testament.

The Bible is black and gold, the colors of Saturn / Satan. There is no one to pray to, as we are within what is considered God, is Love, or the Universe, or the living God of Spirits, etc. YHWH is father, mother, son, daughter, it's just the human body as the temple for the spirit. Reincarnation is the only truth, not karma. There is no justice, it's just us. Karma is just another excuse for the world to be a crapholp run by demons.

I keep it simple. The bible, having been found to be satanic, is the curse the christ man was turned into, he remains dead for sins for all time. He never rose in 3 days, Yeshua simply had a near death experience, he lived to be 80 and died in Kashmir. The religion that rose up around him was pagan sun god syncretism with mithra, dionysus, etc, based on Paul, and it's the oil that runs out at midnight.

So from my perspective, I'm an Atheist who believes god / religion is dead, I don't have to care, I still believe in the holy spirit, thats about it. I guess you could it call Christian Atheism, I searched for God and found the devil, so that's it, I'm out. "His sheep hear his voice, and he leads them in and OUT of the shepfold."

The serpent fooled the whole world, so why should anyone who is religious not consider themselves a satanist? This stuff is all being exposed, thats why those who find the kingdom of heaven within themselves, as it says, are as the 10 virgins. So do you research, and you'll have plenty of extra oil. The difference between wise and foolish virgins, is that a wise athiest will be able to fully justify himself according to the Bible, and there's not a damn thing the Satanic christians can say against him.

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