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05-01-2017, 02:49 AM
Birth of Gods
The prehistoric people faced several challenges, and weather was the biggest one. Favourable season provided them with food, water and comfort; during bad weather, they faced the scarcity of the same. Climatologists have discovered that the earth witnessed the last Ice Age between 30,000 and 10,000 years ago; people had largely inadequate protection against that extreme cold weather. They spent their nights in the natural caves or huts made of bamboos, wild grasses, bones or skins. Scientists have found that humans invented leathers to wear and footwear in this period. Hunger, fear of wild animals and winter nights were the prime challenges for the people of the Ice Age.

Humans had learnt to ignite fire by striking two stones well before the Ice Age. Now, people must have perceived fire as a power that could provide them warmth like the sun. During nights, fire was the only possible source of warmth, light and protection from wild animals. Igniting fire by striking two stones was a difficult and time-consuming task; it was a game of chance. Therefore, people must have considered each ignition to be a miracle or blessing of some divine power.

The Ice Age people maintained a running fire round the clock and used it to ignite a new fire every time. After sunset, they sat around the fireplace to keep themselves warm, and its smoke kept wild animals away. And they must have begun several human activities such as storytelling, companionship, gossip, teaching, music or singing. The utility of fire and difficulty encountered in igniting must have elevated hearths to a divine status. The Ice Age people, for obvious reasons, must have worshipped hearths. There is much historic evidence of fire worship all over the world.

Apart from fire, the Ice Age people would have eagerly waited for the sunrise to seek warmth. As soon as they saw the saffron light of dawn, they stood still for a sunbath. Their head and hands faced the rising sun, as if they were worshipping it. During many millennia of the last Ice Age, most people must have spent their mornings in this posture.
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05-01-2017, 03:08 AM
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Hello! Big Grin

Welcome to the forums.

Don't forget that in the large large interracial period there was also species adaption to the environment and that we had Neanderthal sharing the planet with us.

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05-01-2017, 05:31 AM
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Are you writing a documentary or something?

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05-01-2017, 05:49 AM
RE: Birth of Gods
(05-01-2017 02:49 AM)theevolutionofgods Wrote:  The prehistoric people faced several challenges, and weather was the biggest one.

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During many millennia of the last Ice Age, most people must have spent their mornings in this posture.

Nicely plagiarised.

"The Evolution of Gods: The Scientific Origin of Divinity And Religions" by Ajay Kansal.

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05-01-2017, 07:42 AM
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If they maintained a running fire round the clock and used it to ignite a new fire every time, then why would it be time consuming & difficult to start a new fire ?

Plus, being a nomadic tribe means you can pack up and move south when it gets cold. I realize that many didn't do this, but they could have.

As for gods, human imagination is ripe with them.

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05-01-2017, 08:16 AM
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I suspect the concept of "gods" didn't occur until man acquired agrarian skills and got a bit more leisure time on his hands......

You gotta have time to waste to bother with the god bullshit....

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05-01-2017, 10:26 AM
RE: Birth of Gods
(05-01-2017 08:16 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  I suspect the concept of "gods" didn't occur until man acquired agrarian skills and got a bit more leisure time on his hands......

You gotta have time to waste to bother with the god bullshit....
I would imagine you would need time and leisure on your hands (and the ability to support a leisure class such as priests) to formalize religion. But all you need to incubate it in your head is to be raised watching your father mutter oaths and imprecations while desperately trying to light a fire, then thanking his imaginary friend(s) when he succeeded.
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06-01-2017, 12:10 AM
RE: Birth of Gods
(05-01-2017 02:49 AM)theevolutionofgods Wrote:  Humans had learnt to ignite fire by striking two stones well before the Ice Age. Now, people must have perceived fire as a power that could provide them warmth like the sun. During nights, fire was the only possible source of warmth, light and protection from wild animals. Igniting fire by striking two stones was a difficult and time-consuming task; it was a game of chance. Therefore, people must have considered each ignition to be a miracle or blessing of some divine power.

Protip: Starting threads by Copy-N-Paste and then failing to follow through will earn you very little respect.

It's good odds that a variety of different phenomena were deified by our distant ancestors depending largely on their superstitions. To suggest that fire was the singular origin of the gods is stretching the interpretation well beyond its supporting facts.

While fire has certain aspects that make it easy to deify, it has other aspects that militate against it.

Fire is a good deal easier to make than you seem to believe. The exact type of rock is less important than the general hardness, allowing for common rocks such as granite to be used. Quartzite is ideal. The sparks are also a lot less delicate than you seem to suggest and your average city kid can be taught to burn the local forest down reliably in under an hour. I've managed the feat by accident twice. You wouldn't expect geologists to be a significant cause of forest fires but you'd be amazed at the size of the spark that can be struck while wailing on hard outcrop with a 12 pound sledge hammer. Those bastards will light dry tinder at a range of a few feet. There's also the potential for fire drills, which are much more reliable, though it's debatable whether those had been discovered in the time period you're referring to.

The real problem that fire faces is going to be the fact that humans make fire, not the other way about. It's a pretty shabby deity that can be replicated by any savage smacking two rocks together. Likely a source of awe that the local shaman would have used to keep the tribe wowed but better as a personal magic than as a straight up deity. Sun, storm and similar vital/lethal awe/terror inspring phenomena that were beyond any control are much better candidates for deities.

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