"Bless You" and other sayings of nonsense
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10-10-2011, 09:54 AM
 
"Bless You" and other sayings of nonsense
So, do any other atheists say "Bless you" when someone around you sneezes.
I have taken a deliberate attempt to NOT say it.

My understanding of the reason its said is that it was believed to be spirits leaving your body and when someone said 'bless you' it kept them from getting back in...like a spiritual game of Uno!

But what happens if a Christian sneezes and his Christian pal says bless you..but it was NO evil spirit..but the Holy Ghost being sneezed out, does the BLESS YOU keep the HG from getting back in?

The whole concept of why this is done seems very 3rd grade to me. But now in 2011 its become just something we do. People put NO thought into it at all.

No one has a saying for when i fart, so why do folks feel obligated to say something when someone sneezes?

Am i the only one with this warped thinking?

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10-10-2011, 11:47 AM
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Nope you aren't alone. I also refrain from saying bless you, for essentially the same reasoning. I will often say gesundheit, which means literally good health. I think it makes a fuck of a lot more sense than bless you which I also understand was once used as a way to keep evil spirits out. Though I heard it was used because when someone sneezes it means that they are opening a door for random evil spirits who happen to be roaming around looking to possess someone, to come in, and bless you seals that drafty door. cough *bullshit * cough.
It's shit like this that makes it hard for religions to be taken even remotely serious. Though I am sure that the vast majority of bless you users out there have no freaking clue as to its origins, but I am also sure that christians will use this terminology solely as opposed to using gesundheit even though they aren't really sure what bless you is supposed to imply in this instance. Oddly enough the religious don't tend to be the type to investigate.
I myself just did a quick wiki check on bless you and found that there are all sorts of propositions for what bless you is for including the one we have already stated. None of them are even remotely sane, so it makes you wonder how people could be so comfortable with it.
Then again it's just a phrase. Still I don't say it.

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10-10-2011, 11:59 AM
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I just say, "Are you OK?" or "Hope you're not getting a cold" or "Do you need a tissue?" I mean, it's a logical answer that follows a normal human reaction, I would say. But, Bless you??? what the hell does that mean? Now if they farted or something maybe rebuking evil spirits would be an appropriate response.

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10-10-2011, 12:54 PM
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People clink glasses and say cheers because back in the day, they were afraid of being poisoned. The original act involved pouring some of your beverage into the glass to your right so that everyone had a bit of everyone's drink, so if one was poisoned, all were poisoned. The clink is the truncated version of this. No one poisons anyone anymore but we still do it because it's a part of the culture. People probably don't think too hard when they say bless you. Then again, I doubt people think to hard about being poisoned when they clink their Molson's together at the pub while watching the hockey game.

Just say gesundheit and be done with it and accept that every single culture on the planet has traditions that linger.

You could also choose to say nothing when someone sneezes but religious or secular, most people think it's polite to say something.

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10-10-2011, 01:37 PM
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(10-10-2011 12:54 PM)Ghost Wrote:  People clink glasses and say cheers because back in the day, they were afraid of being poisoned.
Matt

I did not know that. Very interesting. I'm not sure about continuing old traditions based on religion but I understand being tolerant and not making an issue over something harmless. Thanks for the history.

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10-10-2011, 03:46 PM
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The whole concept of religion is 3rd grade, so why would the saying not be as well?
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10-10-2011, 05:55 PM
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(10-10-2011 03:46 PM)Thomas Wrote:  The whole concept of religion is 3rd grade, so why would the saying not be as well?

You're probably right.

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11-10-2011, 12:47 AM
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Even when I was religious I don't think I used the term, I just don't see the point in drawing attention to someones bodily functions unless they seem to be in trouble, and I found it kind of embarrassing when people said it to me

Quote:No one has a saying for when i fart, so why do folks feel obligated to say something when someone sneezes?

Exactly

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11-10-2011, 07:12 AM
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I also never attempt to say it,since it goes against what i stand for.Here in Slovakia we have no such sayings in free translation we say ''for your good health'' well you get the meaning...but when i am around English speaking folks i do not know what to say,i want to be polite but since it goes against my 'disbelief's' i do not say it.There could be an alternative word for it.

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11-10-2011, 10:01 AM
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(10-10-2011 09:54 AM)Denicio Wrote:  No one has a saying for when i fart, so why do folks feel obligated to say something when someone sneezes?

I, for one, would be greatly amused if we could come up with a saying for when one farts. What's German for "good colon health?"

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