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02-07-2015, 07:16 PM
"Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed."
"Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed."

Oh yes Thomas, he was even given the title or the non-honorific if you will, "Doubting." The most perfect character of all to invent. Yes the most vile of the lot(next to Satan myth I suppose), in all the stories, of all the scriptures. He was guilty of the ultimate sins: Skepticism and Critical Thinking. He actually asked for empirical evidence before believing in something. Oh ye of no faith, you are not blessed. Only those who have pure Faith, who believe without seeing, who believe without evidence, these are the ones that are blessed and will be chosen to be saved.

What a powerful message, don't be a Thomas, don't ever question our authority, as we are the experts, we will tell you what to believe(as we have no real evidence to present). Blind faith is what you must have, this is the ultimate virtue, someone with such pure faith can count on being rewarded in a heaven for ever and ever. I understand why this message has gone such a long way to indoctrinate, keep, and corral the flock through the ages.

"Oh but that story does not make any sense one might reason, I don't understand, how can one claim truth without any real evidence? How does one know that the stories are true? Why has God taken such great care to keep himself hidden, if it so gravely important to believe? Why are there so many different Gods and beliefs? Could god have been man made!? Oh no I am reasoning, some doubt is forming, quick start praying, do anything, talk to a priest, clear those wicked rational thoughts out of my mind, quick quick before doubt takes hold and I weaken my pure faith! Oh no I could burn in hell for all eternity!" I must repent and seek stronger faith, Forgive me oh God for questioning"

Yes you are right I am a Skeptic a "Thomas." My goal is to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible. I am ok with saying I don't know. I am not ok with saying "We don't know therefore God did it." Oh yes my mind is free to reason and discover the True wonders of a Natural World.

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02-07-2015, 07:26 PM
RE: "Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed."
Religion is a bunch of shit.

There, I shortened your four paragraphs down to six words. Much easier, huh?

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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02-07-2015, 07:31 PM
RE: "Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed."
Blessed are the cheesemakers



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02-07-2015, 07:49 PM
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One of my favorites!

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02-07-2015, 07:55 PM
RE: "Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed."
Actually, now that I think of it, "blessed are those who have not seen and have believed", what an idiot way to live life. Everything stupid about religion is pretty much condensed into that one quote.

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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02-07-2015, 08:11 PM
RE: "Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jesus eventually appear to Thomas, gave him proof, and then he believed again?

Wonder why he doesn't use that proven method anymore. Consider

Popcorn I put more thought into fiction than theists put into reality.
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02-07-2015, 08:30 PM
RE: "Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed."
(02-07-2015 08:11 PM)CleverUsername Wrote:  Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jesus eventually appear to Thomas, gave him proof, and then he believed again?

Wonder why he doesn't use that proven method anymore. Consider

I have asked that before and was shocked when it was told to me that it would violate free will. WTF? God didn't seem to give a crap about the free will of the people he appeared to or performed miracles to in the bible.

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The very idea of God is a product of the human imagination."
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02-07-2015, 08:58 PM
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(02-07-2015 07:55 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Actually, now that I think of it, "blessed are those who have not seen and have believed", what an idiot way to live life. Everything stupid about religion is pretty much condensed into that one quote.

Those people are a used car salesman's dream!

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02-07-2015, 09:00 PM
RE: "Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed."
(02-07-2015 08:30 PM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  I have asked that before and was shocked when it was told to me that it would violate free will. WTF? God didn't seem to give a crap about the free will of the people he appeared to or performed miracles to in the bible.

Always remember, free will is not in the bible. St Augustine later invented it. Never hesitate to remind Xians of this fact.

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02-07-2015, 09:05 PM
RE: "Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed."
Credulity is made out to be a virtue, and Christians are stupid enough to believe it.
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