Poll: Body Autonomy & Self Termination
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Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
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27-02-2016, 11:40 PM
RE: Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
When expediting your own death is a quicker end to the inevitable, such as with a terminal illness, I think it should be each person's choice as to when and how.

I am less convinced when suicide is seen as a way to end what is probably a temporary situation or when it's a mental health issue that could be helped through appropriate care.

I don't think it should be a spur of the moment decision. An emotional act during a time of duress isn't the same as a decision made after careful consideration of an inevitable and quite foreseeable end.

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28-02-2016, 12:01 AM
RE: Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
(27-02-2016 11:32 PM)Heatheness Wrote:  But some tire of the constant struggle and only want peace. I agree if you want to fight the good fight but why should anyone be forced to do so?

If nothing else we should get to own our death.

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28-02-2016, 12:40 AM
RE: Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
(27-02-2016 06:46 PM)Fireball Wrote:  I like Bucky's answer, and I voted for allowing anyone to terminate. However, if a person has some mental condition that is causing suicidal thoughts that can be mediated with medication, I'd want that tried first.

This. Although, now that I'm following Christianity again, it would tell me something different.

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28-02-2016, 12:45 AM (This post was last modified: 28-02-2016 12:58 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
(27-02-2016 09:53 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  We should have the right to choose when its our time to tap out. However I would hope someone would seek help if they are feeling that way, as death is very final.

I live in Oregon which was the first state to have right to death laws, they are strict but I'm glad they are there for the terminally ill.

Yeah. The law don't really enter into it as long as I know what I'm doing. They can charge my fat ass postmortem. Can't think of any law more stupid than "Thou shall not off thyself." Watch me fool.

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28-02-2016, 12:49 AM (This post was last modified: 28-02-2016 01:03 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
(28-02-2016 12:40 AM)Deidre32 Wrote:  
(27-02-2016 06:46 PM)Fireball Wrote:  I like Bucky's answer, and I voted for allowing anyone to terminate. However, if a person has some mental condition that is causing suicidal thoughts that can be mediated with medication, I'd want that tried first.

This. Although, now that I'm following Christianity again, it would tell me something different.

What? What would it tell you now? No sumo. I am genuinely curious. You ain't got no mark against you for going back to Jesus. Some of us are quite interested in your story. Me, I can't get away from the fucker no matter how hard I try.

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28-02-2016, 01:22 AM
RE: Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
(28-02-2016 12:49 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(28-02-2016 12:40 AM)Deidre32 Wrote:  This. Although, now that I'm following Christianity again, it would tell me something different.

What? What would it tell you now? No sumo. I am genuinely curious. You ain't got no mark against you for going back to Jesus. Some of us are quite interested in your story. Me, I can't get away from the fucker no matter how hard I try.

You are interested? Aw, ok. Shy I will share it perhaps another time. Christianity ...depending on the denomination, often portrays suicide as a 'sin.' Having said that, I believe that no one can really tell another how to live their life, or what is causing them to wish to take their life. I don't believe that it can be as cut and dry as some Christians would have me believe. Depression, mental illness, severe pain and anguish, etc....these are all possible reasons why someone might take his/her life, and not up for me to judge. From my own faith perspective, it's really between God and the person.

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28-02-2016, 02:10 AM
RE: Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
I could say that I don't give a damn about religion position of ending one life but that would be a lie. I find the stance prohibiting such essential liberty as right to die with dignity to be despicable in the extreme. Every time I hear shit about suffering building character or something that must be endured cause god wills it I want to beat shit of idiot uttering such words and ask if he feel any nobler.

In short people should have right to end their life when they want, preferably with help of a doctor so it would be painless. It's their life and their decision; no one have right to rob human of such essential right. How we could speak of bodily autonomy without being able to escape prison of flesh?

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28-02-2016, 03:51 AM
RE: Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
Some say that suicide is selfish -- as it robs others of you.

But isn't that them being selfish????

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Plain and simple -- it's your party and you can leave anytime you want.


But who wants to leave the only party in town????

This is the only one you get.

It's gotta be pretty bad before nothing is better than something.

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28-02-2016, 07:26 AM
RE: Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
(28-02-2016 12:40 AM)Deidre32 Wrote:  
(27-02-2016 06:46 PM)Fireball Wrote:  I like Bucky's answer, and I voted for allowing anyone to terminate. However, if a person has some mental condition that is causing suicidal thoughts that can be mediated with medication, I'd want that tried first.

This. Although, now that I'm following Christianity again, it would tell me something different.

So you are not "following Christianity" 100%?
Oh, and which Christianity is it that you are not following 100%?

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28-02-2016, 10:25 AM
RE: Body Autonomy, How Far Should That Extend?
(28-02-2016 07:26 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(28-02-2016 12:40 AM)Deidre32 Wrote:  This. Although, now that I'm following Christianity again, it would tell me something different.

So you are not "following Christianity" 100%?
Oh, and which Christianity is it that you are not following 100%?

We've always been kind to each other on here. Don't let me returning to faith ...taint that.

Funny how people can treat you differently, depending on your faith beliefs.

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