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30-07-2013, 01:26 PM
Bradley Manning Found Guilty
on 19 charges. But was acquitted of the charge of treason. He still faces over 130 years in prison for this.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/30/justice/ma...?hpt=hp_t1

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30-07-2013, 01:27 PM
RE: Bradley Manning Found Guilty
(30-07-2013 01:26 PM)Carlo_The_Bugsmasher_Driver Wrote:  on 19 charges. But was acquitted of the charge of treason. He still faces over 130 years in prison for this.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/30/justice/ma...?hpt=hp_t1

He knew what he was doing.

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30-07-2013, 01:31 PM (This post was last modified: 30-07-2013 01:34 PM by ridethespiral.)
RE: Bradley Manning Found Guilty
Sure did and he is a damned hero.

Guy divulged war crimes in violation of the geneva convention, the killing of children, the killing of two reporters...They locked him up in a cage naked and he has more dignity now then ever.

It's an outrage that he is on trial and not the guys okaying killing and torture.

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30-07-2013, 09:58 PM
RE: Bradley Manning Found Guilty
(30-07-2013 01:31 PM)ridethespiral Wrote:  Sure did and he is a damned hero.

Guy divulged war crimes in violation of the geneva convention, the killing of children, the killing of two reporters...They locked him up in a cage naked and he has more dignity now then ever.

It's an outrage that he is on trial and not the guys okaying killing and torture.

Guy divulged classified material, point blank regardless of what it is, that's a crime. He knew exactly what he was doing, he knew the consequences, he signed on that dotted line for his clearance. When you get a clearance you sign a Non-Disclosure agreement, that states you cannot divulge the information you see without proper authorization. It's Illegal, regardless of how we feel about it, he broke the law.

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30-07-2013, 10:25 PM (This post was last modified: 30-07-2013 10:31 PM by ridethespiral.)
RE: Bradley Manning Found Guilty
(30-07-2013 09:58 PM)Likos02 Wrote:  
(30-07-2013 01:31 PM)ridethespiral Wrote:  Sure did and he is a damned hero.

Guy divulged war crimes in violation of the geneva convention, the killing of children, the killing of two reporters...They locked him up in a cage naked and he has more dignity now then ever.

It's an outrage that he is on trial and not the guys okaying killing and torture.

Guy divulged classified material, point blank regardless of what it is, that's a crime. He knew exactly what he was doing, he knew the consequences, he signed on that dotted line for his clearance. When you get a clearance you sign a Non-Disclosure agreement, that states you cannot divulge the information you see without proper authorization. It's Illegal, regardless of how we feel about it, he broke the law.

Not going to debate the law he knew he was breaking the law, he pled guilty to most counts. Sometimes the law needs to be broken because the law does not uphold truth and justice. He exposed 20,000 covered up civilian deaths. Sanctioned torture. The veritable assassination of two reuters reporters and the civilian family who came to their aid. The information he divulged was without strategic value, otherwise they would have found him guilty of 'aiding the enemy' and he was acquitted of that charge. He didn't hand the keys to the nukes to the Russians he aired the Bush administrations dirty laundry. He rattled the cage and angered the old boys club. To accept the demonization of manning is to welcome tyranny with open arms.

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31-07-2013, 02:33 AM
RE: Bradley Manning Found Guilty
(30-07-2013 09:58 PM)Likos02 Wrote:  Guy divulged classified material, point blank regardless of what it is, that's a crime. He knew exactly what he was doing, he knew the consequences, he signed on that dotted line for his clearance. When you get a clearance you sign a Non-Disclosure agreement, that states you cannot divulge the information you see without proper authorization. It's Illegal, regardless of how we feel about it, he broke the law.

However, if he believes he's seen evidence of international law being broken he has the obligation to do whatever he can to see it exposed. As America is a signatory to many of the international treaties that govern war then whatever he signed or swore an oath to including upholding these international laws.

There's a strong legal argument that he was obliged by both his oath and the law to reveal what he knew.
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31-07-2013, 08:52 AM
RE: Bradley Manning Found Guilty
He was guilty of breaking the law. He was morally correct in his decision to do so. I agree with him being prosecuted for breaking the law, I am happy he was not found guilty of treason. I'm not sure if he is a hero, but sometimes the moral thing to do, is to break the law.

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31-07-2013, 09:09 AM
RE: Bradley Manning Found Guilty
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his punishment level?



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01-08-2013, 12:28 AM
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/shrug, law is law...the court found him guilty and thats that. Morality shouldn't be confused with Legality. It may be morally correct to kill someone, but it's still murder. Morality is subjective.

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01-08-2013, 12:38 AM
RE: Bradley Manning Found Guilty
I seem to care less and less about law every day. Marijuana is illegal. Indoctrinating children via compulsory schooling is mandatory. Videotaping the police committing a crime gets you thrown in jail. Stealing $100 worth of groceries can get you life, if it's your "third strike". Telling the truth about war crimes gets 130 years. Punishments have no relation to justice or reason. Laws are unevenly applied.

It's a good thing I can't be found in contempt of court until I'm in one. Thanks to utterly immoral white privilege, that will probably be never. I feel ill...

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