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06-07-2016, 04:41 AM
RE: Breaking news: FBI Director Comey to deliver statement at 11 a.m. ET
(05-07-2016 11:30 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  She should've assumed that all of her conversations were classified by default. It's not good for her. If the GrandOldPoop comes out of convention with Kasich as the nominee, it's game over for the dems. If Trump comes out as the nominee it's still game over for the GOP and the Senate.

When Kasich was still running, RCP in a head-to-head poll had him beating Clinton by ten or eleven points.

Hillary better hope the delegates are forced to vote per current rules.
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06-07-2016, 05:32 AM
RE: Breaking news: FBI Director Comey to deliver statement at 11 a.m. ET
I'd happily vote for Kasich. I hope that happens.

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06-07-2016, 05:39 AM
RE: Breaking news: FBI Director Comey to deliver statement at 11 a.m. ET
I don't see how anyone could vote for someone who's "above the law"....

If there was ANY classified material on Clinton's e-mail server --- and she didn't report it --- she's in violation of security.

Any "commoner" would do prison time over that............................ Trust me -- I had Naval Security Group hammer this into my head in training. If you're willing to accept a security clearance --you are responsible for any violations you create or encounter.... If you DON'T report a violation that you become aware of - you're as guilty as the person who screwed up and sent it in the first place.

Do you really want someone in charge, who's unaccountable????

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06-07-2016, 05:48 AM
RE: Breaking news: FBI Director Comey to deliver statement at 11 a.m. ET
(05-07-2016 01:51 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(05-07-2016 01:23 PM)Chas Wrote:  Has anyone stopped to think that just maybe she relied on the advice of people she believed were experts in technology?
I doubt that she is technically competent in network security.
We can rule that out as a possible explanation based on testimony from Clinton's closest aide, Huma Abedin. I'm too tired to find the relevant article right now, but I'll post it later.

Edit: Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pub...story.html

That doesn't actually address the question.
Why was she using a private server? Since she is not an IT person, who did she trust to set it up? Did that person assure her that it was the most secure way to achieve her goal of privacy and security?

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06-07-2016, 05:50 AM
RE: Breaking news: FBI Director Comey to deliver statement at 11 a.m. ET
(05-07-2016 02:37 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(05-07-2016 02:33 PM)DLJ Wrote:  After extensive investigation we have determined that there is no direct evidence that you are crazy.

Fuck-tons of indirect evidence though.

But no reasonable forum member would give a shit.

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Pretty much. Anyone who has an iPhone is assumed to be crazy. Yes

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06-07-2016, 06:22 AM
RE: Breaking news: FBI Director Comey to deliver statement at 11 a.m. ET
(06-07-2016 04:28 AM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  
(05-07-2016 11:26 AM)BnW Wrote:  The second is the entity charged solely with investigating and fact gathering using the difficulty of obtaining a conviction as a factor in whether or not to recommend moving for an indictment.

This happens all the time on the ground level of law enforcement. The cop on the street very often writes his report in this or that manner precisely because he knows that in this or that case, he can or cannot provide damning evidence. They may not say it in so many words, but the influence an investigator has on the decision to prosecute is large.

I'm neither a cop nor a prosecutor but it seemed to me that Comey went further than influencing a report based on evidence. He made it pretty clear that he had evidence, and then said he didn't think any reasonable prosecutor would pursue the case. That's a lot different than providing an opinion on the strength of the evidence. And, since when are cops and prosecutors not aggressive in their prosecutions?


(06-07-2016 04:28 AM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  The prosecutors make that call based on the evidence forwarded. So far as I know, there could still be a prosecution of Clinton, if Lynch decides to ignore the recommendation and go ahead with it, right? It's a recommendation and not a diktat, right?

But a prosecutor doesn't want to waste money or time on a case where the investigating body (which in this case has lawyers on payroll) says, in essence that they don't know, especially when the decision to prosecute has the appearance of meddling in Presidential election.

A recomendation is not a decision.

I agree that it is a disservice to us, the public, though. A matter like this should be settled publicly, given the stakes.

So, funny story on this. Seems not even 2 weeks ago, there was a "chance" meeting between AG Lynch and Bill Clinton. And, in that meeting, which there were no witnesses to, they claim they only ever discussed grandchildren. Anyway, there was a bit of public outrage over this and Lynch said, paraphrasing, "to avoid the appearance of impropriety, I will do whatever the FBI recommends and recuse myself from the decision making process". You may recall that LDH posted a link on that and said he thought it meant real trouble for Clinton. I disagreed and hypothesized that Lynch wouldn't have recused herself from the outcome if she didn't have some clue as to what the outcome was. And, not even a week later, the FBI recommended we do ... nothing.

So, yes, in theory it's only a recommendation but Lynch already said, in advance, it was a decision.

Maybe the way this unfolded is just a series of incredible coincidences. Maybe. It sure quacks and walks like a duck, though.

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06-07-2016, 06:26 AM
RE: Breaking news: FBI Director Comey to deliver statement at 11 a.m. ET
(06-07-2016 06:22 AM)BnW Wrote:  Maybe the way this unfolded is just a series of incredible coincidences. Maybe. It sure quacks and walks like a duck, though.

Here's where I chime in with "steel beams and jet fuel." You were wrong, and you're still wrong. Tongue

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06-07-2016, 06:31 AM
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(06-07-2016 05:39 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  I don't see how anyone could vote for someone who's "above the law"....

If there was ANY classified material on Clinton's e-mail server --- and she didn't report it --- she's in violation of security.

Any "commoner" would do prison time over that............................ Trust me -- I had Naval Security Group hammer this into my head in training. If you're willing to accept a security clearance --you are responsible for any violations you create or encounter.... If you DON'T report a violation that you become aware of - you're as guilty as the person who screwed up and sent it in the first place.

Do you really want someone in charge, who's unaccountable????

I agree.

Over the weekend, Trump tweeted another blatantly antisemitic graphic which everyone - Democrats, media and even white supremacists (seeing as how they created the original image) recognized it for what it was. Trump denies it but there is a growing cacophony from the Republicans to not give him the nomination in Cleveland.

What I don't get is why is there no cry to replace Hillary? She violated rules put in place to protect national security and nothing happened. One thing I do agree with Comey on is that she never intended to betray the US to her enemies and prison is probably not appropriate. But, is this really the person we want as a candidate for President of the United States? How is she a better option? How come no one is calling for her to be replaced? Not a single peep out of the Democrats.

Btw, this is not over. The Paul Ryan has already said that Congress wants hearings on how the FBI conducted the investigation. I don't believe for one second those hearings are about the FBI. What I believe is they preparing for the impeachment hearings the Republicans hope to start the day after her inauguration (assuming she wins). The Justice Department may not be willing to go after her but Congress - especially if the Republicans hold the House - are not going to feel in any way obligated about that.

One question I have is can they go after her for something that happened prior to her election. The Constitution is silent on that. And, I think that means Congress can define what it means up to the point that the Supreme Court stops them - and historically the Court does not like to get involved in spats between the other 2 branches of government. So, if she wins, this is not over.

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06-07-2016, 06:39 AM
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(06-07-2016 05:48 AM)Chas Wrote:  That doesn't actually address the question.
Why was she using a private server? Since she is not an IT person, who did she trust to set it up? Did that person assure her that it was the most secure way to achieve her goal of privacy and security?
I can only speculate as to why she did it - my guess is that she mainly wanted to circumvent FOIA requests. The man in charge of setting up and maintaining Clinton's private server was her IT specialist Bryan Pagliano. I don't think we'll find out the answer to the third question anytime soon because this man invoked his right to plead the fifth amendment over a hundred times when he was interviewed by Judicial Watch earlier this year.

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06-07-2016, 06:42 AM
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(06-07-2016 06:26 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(06-07-2016 06:22 AM)BnW Wrote:  Maybe the way this unfolded is just a series of incredible coincidences. Maybe. It sure quacks and walks like a duck, though.

Here's where I chime in with "steel beams and jet fuel." You were wrong, and you're still wrong. Tongue

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