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01-10-2016, 08:49 AM
RE: Brexit In Court
Why would any nation's people or any nation's government want to be part of a supra-national organisation that has its heart set on punishing any member state that wishes to leave what is, after all, only supposed ever to have been a free and cooperative association of advanced countries? How would the EU, which benefits from selling the UK goods and services worth many billions of euros more than it buys from the UK, go about "making an example" of the UK? Have you some inside information on how the UK is going to get its just deserts from this latest attempt at an incarnation of the Holy Roman Empire. The EU is going to pillory the UK for its "impudence"? Hilarious.

Any sign of the EU behaving in such a spiteful or unenlightened manner of the sort you imply will happen will convince even more citizens of the UK just what a good move it was to vote to leave.
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01-10-2016, 11:25 AM
RE: Brexit In Court
(01-10-2016 08:49 AM)Gert Heide Wrote:  Why would any nation's people or any nation's government want to be part of a supra-national organisation that has its heart set on punishing any member state that wishes to leave what is, after all, only supposed ever to have been a free and cooperative association of advanced countries? How would the EU, which benefits from selling the UK goods and services worth many billions of euros more than it buys from the UK, go about "making an example" of the UK? Have you some inside information on how the UK is going to get its just deserts from this latest attempt at an incarnation of the Holy Roman Empire. The EU is going to pillory the UK for its "impudence"? Hilarious.

Any sign of the EU behaving in such a spiteful or unenlightened manner of the sort you imply will happen will convince even more citizens of the UK just what a good move it was to vote to leave.

Oh dear. The Daily Express/Mail/Sun readers have shown up Drinking Beverage

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01-10-2016, 11:45 AM
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(01-10-2016 11:25 AM)Silly Deity Wrote:  
(01-10-2016 08:49 AM)Gert Heide Wrote:  Why would any nation's people or any nation's government want to be part of a supra-national organisation that has its heart set on punishing any member state that wishes to leave what is, after all, only supposed ever to have been a free and cooperative association of advanced countries? How would the EU, which benefits from selling the UK goods and services worth many billions of euros more than it buys from the UK, go about "making an example" of the UK? Have you some inside information on how the UK is going to get its just deserts from this latest attempt at an incarnation of the Holy Roman Empire. The EU is going to pillory the UK for its "impudence"? Hilarious.

Any sign of the EU behaving in such a spiteful or unenlightened manner of the sort you imply will happen will convince even more citizens of the UK just what a good move it was to vote to leave.

Oh dear. The Daily Express/Mail/Sun readers have shown up Drinking Beverage

Oh dear. The Guardian readers are trying to act smart again.
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01-10-2016, 11:58 AM
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(01-10-2016 11:45 AM)Lucipurr Wrote:  
(01-10-2016 11:25 AM)Silly Deity Wrote:  Oh dear. The Daily Express/Mail/Sun readers have shown up Drinking Beverage

Oh dear. The Guardian readers are trying to act smart again.

And imitation is the sincerest form of flattery .

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01-10-2016, 05:10 PM
RE: Brexit In Court
(01-10-2016 08:49 AM)Gert Heide Wrote:  ...
Any sign of the EU behaving in such a spiteful or unenlightened manner of the sort you imply will happen will convince even more citizens of the UK just what a good move it was to vote to leave.

Meanwhile, following the Clinton victory...

A Tea Party member Wrote:Any sign of the Washington behaving in such a spiteful or unenlightened manner of the sort you imply will happen will convince even more citizens of the New Confederacy just what a good move it was to vote to leave.


Anyway, I didn't vote to leave so don't blame me, alright?

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01-10-2016, 07:52 PM
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(01-10-2016 08:21 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(30-09-2016 05:13 PM)Lucipurr Wrote:  And we're going to make a success of it.

Well, best of luck, because the EU will do their best to make an example out of you.

Thank you.

Just you wait, we're going to be leaders in free trade when we leave.
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01-10-2016, 08:44 PM
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Uh-huh.

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01-10-2016, 09:40 PM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2016 12:02 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Brexit In Court
(01-10-2016 07:52 PM)Lucipurr Wrote:  
(01-10-2016 08:21 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Well, best of luck, because the EU will do their best to make an example out of you.

Thank you.

Just you wait, we're going to be leaders in free trade when we leave.

Sure you will. Most all of your largest and closest trading partners are in the EU.

If Texas were to break away from the rest of the United States, I somehow doubt it would see less restrictive interstate commerce. Just sayin'.

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02-10-2016, 07:47 AM
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Thanks for the moral support. Like your posts.
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02-10-2016, 08:15 AM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2016 09:18 AM by Gert Heide.)
RE: Brexit In Court
The federation of fifty states that includes Texas and forty-nine others has been stable and peaceful for generations. A modus vivendi has been worked out establishing the balance of power between state and federal governments to raise taxes or legislate on things like education and welfare. Americans can up stakes and drive across borders at whim and usually find the same sort of community they have just left, where language is no barrier and where internal migration is not a political issue. Though Canada, the States, Germany and many other nations are constitutionally federated states, commerce and the movement of people between regions is rarely a contentious issue. There are issues to do with the role of the Washington government in redistributing income and with some states' rights, but these are resolved within the context of a nation sharing one language and a homogeneous culture.

The EU started out in life as a project [the European Steel and Coal Community] with the specific remit of rationalising and organising the largely ruined coal-producing, transportation and iron and steel producing capacities of NW European nations in which coordination between all three was vital for the rebuilding of Europe after 1945. In stark contrast, the project to federate Europe has never been shown to have been driven by anything remotely close to this degree of urgency or historical necessity. Millions of voters are keen on "ever closer union". But millions more find the term deeply sinister and, because moves to bring this union about often seem to involve bullying and transparently gerry-mandered plebiscites giving assent to treaties that appear to be leading to the abolition of states' sovereignty, threatening and tyrannical.

In a number of EU member states, the majority of those polled distrust the EU and/or wish their nation could leave it. The project to federate a growing band of European states has been faltering badly for years. Understanding the reasons for this lies in understanding what makes is possible for all the Länder of Germany to remain inside the federation Bismarck inaugurated in 1870 and what makes it impossible to create a United States of Europe in the twenty-first century.
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