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16-08-2014, 07:23 AM
Brown and the word "robbery".
The use of the word "robbery" is bullshit. I have seen bar fights and fights as a teen between white people, where police show up and no one dies. I worked at a 7-11 and saw WHITE PEOPLE shoplift. One WHITE GUY stole several cartons of cigarettes and got physical with our store manager while trying to escape.

I did stupid shit when I was a teen myself. I drank beer, smoked pot, and even in college saw plenty of physical confrontations and no one died. I even stupidly smashed private property for fun. If I had been caught I would have deserved to be punished but death?

No matter what you saw on that tape, it still does not justify shooting an unarmed person after they put their hands up That was shoplifting, and that shove, if done by a white person, wouldn't have even been called felony assault.

The fact remains that blacks on average will be judged more harshly for the same similar actions than whites. I have seen far worse done by whites than what you see on that video.

Now here is the truth, if we as a collective society don't want it to be about race, then we as a society should fact it is a race issue. There is a disparity in how minorities are economically impacted and viewed by law enforcement . Blacks do have to worry about being black in public. If anyone thinks they only have themselves to blame they are assholes and are ignoring our nation's history of institutionalized deep seeded bigotry.

Race is where republicans, and the rich want the conversation to be. It is also where the gun industry wants the conversation to be. Maintain the economic disparity between the top and bottom, you can gett hurting white and poor republicans to point the finger at blacks instead of pointing it at the right enemy, greedy assholes pitting us against each other.

Like I have said, as a teen and young adult, seeing my white friends do far worse, to know that this video is bullshit and is merely race baiting and still would not excuse the cop from murdering an unarmed teen.

Now the other aspect of this is, if you rightfully recoil at the overly armed police AND I AGREE, that is also a product of big industry writing law for us so they do what they want regardless of how it harms the rest of us. You cannot have it both ways. You cant have a free for all market where the public is armed to the teeth then stupidly expect law enforcement not to be able to be safe. If they have to constantly fear an armed society, they are going to be trained to fear the worst and assume the worst. If we do not want that then we have to consider ourselves the AMOUNT of guns floating around.

I am sick of people blaming blacks and even any poor person in general. I am sick of republicans and libertarians and Ayn Rand assholes claiming that "get government out of the way" helps. None of our social ills can be fixed by allowing one class of people write laws while blaming everyone else for the flood of money they pump into politics to pit working people against each other.

I am also tired of quoting RICH people and companies that AGREE WITH ME. The bottom line is that this kid did not deserve to die. The only way to take race out of the issue is to fight the real enemy, economic disparity, and that is affecting more and more white middle class and white poor people as well.

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16-08-2014, 07:28 AM
RE: Brown and the word "robbery".
(16-08-2014 07:23 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  ...
what you see on that video.
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Links?

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16-08-2014, 07:33 AM
RE: Brown and the word "robbery".
It is all over the internet now, I saw what anyone can see. Google "Brown video/ stolen cigars" or something like that sure you will find the full video.

Still wouldn't matter what you see on that tape. Shoplifting does not deserve a death sentence, and I have seen white people get warnings over bar fights, this guy merely pushed someone.

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16-08-2014, 07:52 AM
RE: Brown and the word "robbery".
OK, here's one.

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16-08-2014, 08:32 AM
RE: Brown and the word "robbery".
(16-08-2014 07:52 AM)DLJ Wrote:  OK, here's one.

Fox's pontification




I had a WHITE GUY while working at a 7-11 steal SEVERAL cartons of cigarettes and shoved our manager aside to escape. I have no doubt that guy would have not ended up dead.

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16-08-2014, 08:34 AM
RE: Brown and the word "robbery".
And the other thing that pisses me off about this video is the assholes at FOX would focus on this and the looters, and not the other blacks, whom stood in front of this same store where this video was taken of the shoplifting and those blacks PROTECTED IT FROM LOOTING.

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16-08-2014, 09:49 AM
Re: Brown and the word "robbery".
Both legal sides have said that theft had nothing to do with the shooting. As the officer didn't even know of it.

Not sure why this is being made a thing.

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16-08-2014, 10:09 AM (This post was last modified: 16-08-2014 10:16 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Brown and the word "robbery".
It's shoplifitng if it's a white guy, it's strong arm robbery if it's a darkie.

(16-08-2014 09:49 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Both legal sides have said that theft had nothing to do with the shooting. As the officer didn't even know of it.

Not sure why this is being made a thing.

It was the way it was released. By releasing the theft report and video immediately after naming the white dude it implicitly linked the two. The Badass Highway Patrolman has to go the local Police Chief and say "What the fuck are you doing? You want a fucking riot?" It wasn't until several hours later that the Chief came out and said the two were unrelated. With the Badass Highway Patrolman's foot up his ass.

And you can bet your ass that the DOJ and FBI are taking notes. Not only will a stunt like that not fool them, they're going to use it against them. That entire police force may very well end up disbanded for incompetence and stupidity.

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16-08-2014, 10:17 AM
RE: Brown and the word "robbery".
(16-08-2014 09:49 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Both legal sides have said that theft had nothing to do with the shooting. As the officer didn't even know of it.

Not sure why this is being made a thing.

Nope, actually the story morphed from "it was not related" to "he saw the cigars and made the connection to a broadcast " back to "he didn't know".

Still doesn't change a fucking thing for me.

Cop either shot him for jaywalking or petty theft. I am also quite sure the way he approached the pair and his tone of voice had a lot to do with how they reacted. But this is a problem nationwide. 2 unarmed blacks are murdered by police every week in this country. Whites are not treated the same way when pulled over for anything.

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16-08-2014, 10:19 AM
RE: Brown and the word "robbery".
The police fucked up. Big time, and now they are trying to cover their ass. No surprise there.
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