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20-02-2013, 08:18 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really?
(20-02-2013 08:05 AM)Averroes Wrote:  Hi, I take issue with the “burden of proof” argument many atheists use. They say that it is the theists’ task to prove the existence of God, because “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”, as Carl Sagan puts it. But obviously, theists and atheists won’t agree which one of those respective claims is the extraordinary one. It isn’t necessarily so that the claim of existence of anything is the extraordinary one: for example, in the case of ether (the assumed medium where electromagnetic waves propagate), it was the claim of nonexistence that was deemed extraordinary and had to be proven. It seems to me that “extraordinary” in fact means “contrary to intuition/common knowledge”, and that is a relative thing.

I think that the key principle that gives atheists the upper hand is in fact Occam’s razor: if two theories both explain a full set of observed phenomena, the one with simpler set of assumptions is to be prefered.

If you think you can beat the aforementioned “annoying relativism”, I will be learn...or just read any of your thoughts on that subject.


You don't understand the burden of proof.

The burden is on the one making the existence claim. The 'extraordinary' comes in when the claim is extraordinary, so must be the proof.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 20-02-2013, 08:05 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Chas - 20-02-2013 08:18 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 20-02-2013, 09:17 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Chas - 20-02-2013, 09:20 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - mechtheist - 20-02-2013, 11:22 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 24-02-2013, 04:58 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Chas - 24-02-2013, 05:11 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 24-02-2013, 06:13 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 07-03-2013, 04:02 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - sandman - 07-03-2013, 04:55 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 07-03-2013, 07:10 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Adenosis - 06-03-2013, 03:19 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Adenosis - 06-03-2013, 03:21 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 07-03-2013, 07:00 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Adenosis - 07-03-2013, 08:55 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 07-03-2013, 05:27 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Adenosis - 07-03-2013, 06:13 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 09-03-2013, 07:00 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Adenosis - 10-03-2013, 09:22 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Full Circle - 20-02-2013, 12:24 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Starcrash - 10-03-2013, 06:09 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Full Circle - 20-02-2013, 12:17 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - kim - 20-02-2013, 12:54 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - kim - 20-02-2013, 01:48 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - kim - 20-02-2013, 02:18 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - amyb - 21-02-2013, 11:26 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - mechtheist - 21-02-2013, 08:39 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - TrulyX - 22-02-2013, 12:58 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - kim - 24-02-2013, 07:45 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 28-02-2013, 07:33 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - DerekS - 06-03-2013, 02:04 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - kim - 07-03-2013, 05:58 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 07-03-2013, 07:20 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - fat cat - 08-03-2013, 01:33 AM
Burden of Proof: Really? - I and I - 08-03-2013, 11:58 AM
Burden of Proof: Really? - I and I - 08-03-2013, 12:38 PM
Burden of Proof: Really? - I and I - 08-03-2013, 03:50 PM
Burden of Proof: Really? - I and I - 08-03-2013, 05:53 PM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - kim - 09-03-2013, 12:57 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - Averroes - 09-03-2013, 07:41 AM
RE: Burden of Proof: Really? - kim - 10-03-2013, 09:55 PM
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