Burden of Proof: Really?



10032013, 09:55 PM
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RE: Burden of Proof: Really?
(09032013 07:41 AM)Averroes Wrote: Consider again the case of Pi: you can say you believe there are no such two integers whose fraction equals Pi, but you can also take a stronger position  you can say you know that, and you can do the proof. And only then you will convince anybody. No problem and not really the case  at least not for me  I'm all for mathematical proofs. However from previous experience, someone demanding existence of an imagined thing will often not accept scientific or even mathematical proof of nonexistence. Also from previous experience, they will most likely take your scientific or mathematical proof, show how you incorrectly interpreted it, and show how it actually proves existence!! That's really annoying. Also, when one is arguing over something which is nonexistent it might behoove one to temporarily acknowledge it's existence or at least define it, in order to prove it's nonexistence. Now, for the sake of argument, I can do that... and you can do that.... but very often for someone demanding existence... nope, not going to work. This is where the claimant stops everything and says, "Ah ha! So, you admit existence!! Thanks, I win this argument!!!" and runs away before nonexistence has been shown the light of day. Been there, done that, futility is a drag. It is an extreme rarity for fact to influence faith to drop it's pretense. *** The first image was by famed Russian American artist Mark Rothko and the second was by Chilean artist Matta Echaurren. Matta is probably not very widely known in the US but quite well known among artists, he was an astoundingly prolific painter. I'm glad you found his work enjoyable; I do, too. I think in the end, I just feel like I'm a secular person who has a skeptical eye toward any extraordinary claim, carefully examining any extraordinary evidence before jumping to conclusions. ~ Eric ~ My friend ... who figured it out. 

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