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15-10-2015, 07:17 PM
RE: CNN Democratic Debate
(15-10-2015 09:56 AM)Alla Wrote:  I will remember this about him: he is the only one who was honest and BRAVE when he answered the question: are all lives matter or black lives matter?
His answer was: all lives matter.
The rest (cowards) said: black lives matter.


do all lives matter or black lives matter?
Sanders answered: black lives matter. Thank you, new preacher of morality, for letting me know that my life doesn't matter.

It's a saying used by the movement to say black lives matter too. Of course all lives matter. No one said they don't. This is an intellectually dishonest red herring people use to distract from ubiquitous, undeniable, institutionalized racism.

It's way more cowardly to lie about it and try to hide it than to deal with it. No one is fooled by this Faux News rhetoric.
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15-10-2015, 07:27 PM
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(14-10-2015 07:07 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  [*]Webb - I also couldn't tell if his answer to the last question (who is your biggest enemy you've made) was serious or not. It was certainly dumb. I don't expect his candidacy to last much longer.
Even if I didn't hear very well what he said I think I understood his answer - he doesn't have enemies. Or at least he doesn't see in people his enemies.
(14-10-2015 07:07 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  [*]Sanders - Definitely more anti-establishment than any other candidate up there. Wants to take on big interests/big money in ways other candidates won't. Looks to other countries for how we could be like them. He did a fairly good job at handling the various "tough" questions Anderson Cooper threw at him without looking like he was dodging or being intentionally vague. Of note: I think he was the only candidate to come out and solidly say he supports legalizing recreational marijuana use**.
[*]Clinton - She got the most time to talk*, and spent a lot of time answering questions about flip-flopping for political expediency, the email server issue, and her labeling herself as a progressive or a moderate depending on who she talks to. Anyone's opinions of her answers is largely going to be based on what they already thought of her. She handled them as well as she could; it's a matter of if people already trust her. She was the most vocal against Republicans, which makes sense. She's attacked the most by them, right now. Sanders and O'Malley both did a good job of being the first to raise various issues, with Clinton having to clarify that she also supports X, which made her look a bit reactionary. She wasn't the only one doing that, but I did get this "hey, I'm a progressive, too!" vibe from her.
So, if Hillary is flip-flopping it is learning something new and changing opinion, but if we Mitt Romney is flip-flopping then it is un-acceptable. Ok, I got it.
I think she did better than others. She was very comfortable and I could see it.
(14-10-2015 07:07 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  [*]O'Malley - Of the three smaller candidates, he did a lot better, but he also got a bit more speaking time than the other two*. In all honesty, his name was the only one of those three candidates I recognized up until three days ago. He did a fairly good job answering the "tough" questions, and he has some decent Charisma, but he didn't seem to stand out the way Clinton and Sanders do. That may be my own bias or it might be part of why he's polling as low as he is. He is super big into a green energy grid by 2050. Even to the point of bringing it up, off topic.
He looked like he was ready to attack other candidates while they were talking. I didn't like him at all.
(14-10-2015 07:07 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  [*]Chafee - It was notable that the only time I remember the audience laughing at someone was when he admitted to voting on an issue he didn't understand when he was new in congress because "he'd just gotten there". It was painful to watch. Like Webb, I don't expect to see much more of him before he drops out.
I agree. But I did like that his record is clean without any scandals (did you hear it, Hillary?)Tongue

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15-10-2015, 07:31 PM
RE: CNN Democratic Debate
(15-10-2015 07:17 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  It's a saying used by the movement to say black lives matter too. Of course all lives matter. No one said they don't. This is an intellectually dishonest red herring people use to distract from ubiquitous, undeniable, institutionalized racism.

It's way more cowardly to lie about it and try to hide it than to deal with it. No one is fooled by this Faux News rhetoric.
I hear you. I understand. They are making a point.

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15-10-2015, 07:36 PM
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(15-10-2015 06:29 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  My mum is fucking 73 years old with pacemakers and bovine atrial valve replacement and whatnot. She could not give less of a shit. She can't rely on your generosity to feed and house 4 people. Your juju is weak.
You didn't tell me this. Those who can not contribute and need help have to be taken care of.
I don't think we have problem with taxes. I think we have problem with priorities and waste.

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15-10-2015, 07:44 PM
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(15-10-2015 06:51 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  
(15-10-2015 06:19 PM)Alla Wrote:  I hate to say this because I agree with much of their morals, but I am against enforcing Christian morals on non-Christians.
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(15-10-2015 06:51 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  Whatever funds are being donated to charity by the wealthy is microscopic to the billions of dollars pumped into Super PACS by corporate tycoons and bankers that fund candidates who are in favor of enacting gratuitous tax cuts to rich and placing increasing onus on the rest of society on compensating for the expense. The legions of offshore accounts stockpiling money and assets that aren't feeding back into the domestic economy and the dramatically and consistently widening income gap demonstrate that the wealthy have little interest sharing out of goodwill and are more concerned with hoarding even more riches for themselves in a struggling economy.
I believe that it is true. I believe that lots of unfairness is going on. But I also believe and I said this in my post above that the biggest problem is not how much we tax rich but how we spend money. We have problem with wasting money and priorities. The biggest priorities in my opinion are:
national security
taking care of poor and needy and sick:
affordable health care
affordable education.

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