Can Atheists Feel Joy?
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12-09-2012, 02:07 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy?
(12-09-2012 03:35 AM)traceparcet Wrote:  I'm starting this thread after another dragging class called "Making Of A Christian Mind" Today was a tad more interesting since my professor decided to bring up Atheists into the mix up. He said that Atheists can not feel joy since their spiritual life is lacking. I however feel that he is wrong. I would live to hear what others have to say about this topic.
Atheists can definitely feel joy. But there's one peculiar thing I noticed. Atheist joy and spirituality seems to be external. They go to the nature and watch natural beauty like sunrises, sunsets and mountains and then the night comes and there are distant stars and planets. Sometimes even a faint stripe of the Milky Way galaxy. It's all Carl Saganish and that inspires deep spiritual feelings in atheist heart.

OTOH, I'm not religious either, but I did experience deep feelings of joy and absolute unconditional love, towards me, others, everything and nothing at the same time, but it was an inner experience. It started with my meditations, but it persisted for weeks, I even woke up with that feeling and walked around with it all day, until it went away. I can return to it sometimes, but it seems to abide by its own rules.
It was certainly fascinating how at first the love was external, like a foreign presence in my mind that something loves me. And then over the days it shifted and merged with me, so I was the one who loves, everything and nothing in particular. It was an essential experience, without religious forms or labels. That's maybe why I'm spiritual but not religious, no religion comes close to capturing this experience, specially no organized, old and dogmatic religion. If anyone still wonders what's the difference between spiritual and religious, (Seth?) it's that.

I have contacted one writer who wrote about such experiences in his novel, but he told me that the research on which it's based is yet "incomplete and inconclusive" and that there is one book to read, The Common Experience by J M Cohen. (It's not in ebook format, so I don't know if I ever get it)

Those who worship that great bearded man (James Randi) seem to have this affinity to nature. I like nice natural sights, but I wouldn't climb, march and camp out just to get there. It just doesn't do that much to me.

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Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 03:35 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Vosur - 12-09-2012, 11:34 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Chas - 12-09-2012, 11:35 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Hughsie - 12-09-2012, 11:36 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 11:39 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Chas - 12-09-2012, 11:40 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - FSM_scot - 12-09-2012, 11:40 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 11:44 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Bucky Ball - 12-09-2012, 11:45 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 11:48 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Chas - 12-09-2012, 11:50 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 11:52 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Chas - 12-09-2012, 12:02 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 12:05 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Chas - 12-09-2012, 12:07 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 12:13 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Vosur - 12-09-2012, 11:56 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - kim - 12-09-2012, 11:56 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 12:00 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Bucky Ball - 12-09-2012, 12:24 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 12:24 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 12:30 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Erxomai - 12-09-2012, 12:23 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - BnW - 12-09-2012, 12:37 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Erxomai - 12-09-2012, 12:38 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - earmuffs - 12-09-2012, 12:29 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 12:36 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Phaedrus - 12-09-2012, 12:37 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - LadyJane - 12-09-2012, 12:56 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - traceparcet - 12-09-2012, 01:04 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - kim - 12-09-2012, 01:44 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - morondog - 12-09-2012, 02:05 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Phaedrus - 12-09-2012, 01:03 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Chas - 12-09-2012, 01:28 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Phaedrus - 12-09-2012, 02:12 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Luminon - 12-09-2012 02:07 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Chas - 12-09-2012, 02:11 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Luminon - 13-09-2012, 04:28 AM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - GirlyMan - 12-09-2012, 05:54 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Chas - 12-09-2012, 06:44 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - GirlyMan - 12-09-2012, 09:41 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - zeldamaster17 - 12-09-2012, 06:57 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - LadyJane - 12-09-2012, 07:14 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - zip_ster - 12-09-2012, 08:58 PM
RE: Can Atheists Feel Joy? - Logisch - 13-09-2012, 04:48 AM

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