Can Souls in Heaven Intervene In Affaits On Earth?
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28-12-2016, 08:30 PM
RE: Can Souls in Heaven Intervene In Affaits On Earth?
(28-12-2016 08:25 PM)Cheerful Charlie Wrote:  
(28-12-2016 08:18 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  You need to first establish that there is such a place as Heaven and such things as a god or souls. Until you do, your question is devoid of content. We can all imagine that such things exist but in the end all we're left with is the imaginary. Can all the souls in heaven decide en mass to communicate with those on Earth? In the realm of the imagination, what one imagines can do anything one imagines it doing, except for being real.

I am writing this fro an Atheist perspective. Many religions, especially Christianity tell us there is a heaven, where the souls of some go. If so, why do we get no sort of "settle it for once and for all" communication from heaven?
Would it make you sad as a soul in heaven to be unable to help? Is God all that good if the souls of heaven aren't allowed to help? What's the deal here? More problems for the concept of Christianity to explain.

I see. Well you know what they'll do is just make up some answer and find a passage in the Bible that they can interpret to fit. It's all invalid.

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28-12-2016, 08:34 PM
RE: Can Souls in Heaven Intervene In Affaits On Earth?
Yabut, where's the fun in that ?
That Jebus, he's a trickster god.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Trickster_gods

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28-12-2016, 08:37 PM
RE: Can Souls in Heaven Intervene In Affaits On Earth?
I don't see any reason to believe that a heaven exists. It's silly.
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28-12-2016, 09:13 PM
RE: Can Souls in Heaven Intervene In Affaits On Earth?
(28-12-2016 08:06 PM)Cheerful Charlie Wrote:  Question, if one goes to heaven, can one witness what goes on down here on Earth? Can someone in heaven help somebody in need? Or is that forbidden? Or just not doable? Can one approach God and ask for his intercedence?

They can interact but they are restricted to stealing socks from the dryer and hiding car keys so that Jebus can get the credit for finding them.

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28-12-2016, 09:20 PM
RE: Can Souls in Heaven Intervene In Affaits On Earth?
If we could somehow run a series of tests in regards to the positive outcome rate of problems experienced by people who do and people who do not believe they are receiving spiritual assistance, we'd probably find, at best, something resembling a placebo effect.

And the answer a believer would give in regards to whether or not such assistance is possible probably varies, though given the tendency to pray for good things to happen I'd assume they either believe God himself will help and that the part of the Bible which says he won't interfere is wrong, or God will not help but someone else (i.e. their dead relative, friend, cat, etc.) will.

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28-12-2016, 09:27 PM
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Jesus Tap-dancing Christ, go ask a fucking Christian. Facepalm

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28-12-2016, 09:30 PM
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(28-12-2016 09:27 PM)Chas Wrote:  Jesus Tap-dancing Christ, go ask a fucking Christian. Facepalm

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28-12-2016, 09:32 PM
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And for the record, if I die and find that I am indeed a spirit with some sort of influence on earthly affairs, I'm gonna do everything within my power to interfere with other spirits' attempts to help influence issues concerning their counterparts back on earth.

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28-12-2016, 09:32 PM
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(28-12-2016 09:27 PM)Chas Wrote:  Jesus Tap-dancing Christ, go ask a fucking Christian. Facepalm




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28-12-2016, 09:32 PM
RE: Can Souls in Heaven Intervene In Affaits On Earth?
Depends on which religion you ask.
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