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23-08-2014, 07:56 PM
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I'm sick of having to clarify what I do or don't believe in...

My position is simple... I don't believe in God.

I don't have to explain it if I don't want to, and neither does anyone else.

Theists can, and will believe whatever they want about atheists. But they are of no concern to me.

I don't feel the need to gain their approval.

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24-08-2014, 12:00 AM
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(03-06-2014 10:56 PM)smileXsmileXsmile Wrote:  Can someone explain the labels of atheism. I know there is more then one type of atheist. I was presented with this nice table.

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but i found a few problems. Lets look at it from a different perspective.

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As you can see there can be two types of agnostic atheists. Is there a label to differentiate them?

I am one of the two "agnostic atheists". I happen to lack belief that there is a God and lack belief that there is no God. (obviously I'm agnostic, since there is nothing to be 100% certain about). Just curious as to what my technical label would be. Smile

Also, a side note, I found it interesting that the title 'atheist' covers more then the term 'theist' does (from that venn diagram's point of view). I'm guessing this is what leads to misconception that all atheists believe there is no God.



I'm sorry, but your Venn diagram is faulty, that's why you're finding problems; it should look more like this:
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It's Saturday night or Sunday morning and I'm drunk so here goes:

Agnostic atheist: I'm not sure if god/gods exist, but there isn't any good evidence for god/gods' existence so I don't believe.

Agnostic theist: I'm not sure if god/gods exist, but I'll believe anyways.

Gnostic atheist: I know 100% that god/gods do not exist.

Gnostic theist: I know 100% that god/gods exist.

There! As simple as I can possibly be.
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24-08-2014, 12:21 AM
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(03-06-2014 11:24 PM)smileXsmileXsmile Wrote:  So I'm forced to either believe in God or not believe in God?

Why can't I just say "There's no way to know"; AKA 'Lack belief there is no God' and 'Lack belief there is a God or Gods'?


I'm not so sure I understand the difference between "lacks belief in a god" vs. "believes there is no God". Is there a difference? Would you or someone, be so kind as to idiot-proof each square of the first chart so I can understand it?

lacks belief in a god easiest way I can think of is this conversation:

A fucking idiot theist: Derp derp derp there's a god. (offer no evidence)
You: I don't believe you.

Basically, you're not making any claim. Some moron made an unsubstantiated claim and you don't believe him/her.


believes there is no God. If you say, "There is no god!" You are making a claim, you will need prove it.

I don't why the hell anyone would go out of their way to prove the nonexistence of something like gods or unicorns. It seems like a waste of time.

Wow... it's 1:20 am here, I need a few more drinks.

Bye.
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30-08-2014, 11:24 PM
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(23-08-2014 07:56 PM)Sam Wrote:  I'm sick of having to clarify what I do or don't believe in...

My position is simple... I don't believe in God.

I don't have to explain it if I don't want to, and neither does anyone else.

Theists can, and will believe whatever they want about atheists. But they are of no concern to me.

I don't feel the need to gain their approval.


Hey dude, your signature... it's Jerry Garcia not Gerry Garcia Wink

"If you cannot explain it simply, you don't understand it enough" -Albert Einstein
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30-08-2014, 11:25 PM (This post was last modified: 30-08-2014 11:29 PM by smileXsmileXsmile.)
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Since i've asked the question I've learned the answer. your 4 circle diagram looks good to me. I got you on the 1:20am drunk sesh too haha. I lol'd

"If you cannot explain it simply, you don't understand it enough" -Albert Einstein
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31-08-2014, 09:27 AM
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(23-08-2014 07:56 PM)Sam Wrote:  My position is simple... I don't believe in God.

Yes you do.

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31-08-2014, 10:38 AM
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(31-08-2014 09:27 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  .... Wrote stuff....

Oh, can I play?

"I am almost certain no gods exist (99.9999 repeating sure)"

Which, should a deity exist within such a diminishing decimal, makes such an entity not even worth bothering with. Big Grin

How did I go? Smile

Much cheers to all.
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31-08-2014, 11:16 AM
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(31-08-2014 10:38 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  
(31-08-2014 09:27 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  .... Wrote stuff....

Oh, can I play?

"I am almost certain no gods exist (99.9999 repeating sure)"

Which, should a deity exist within such a diminishing decimal, makes such an entity not even worth bothering with. Big Grin

How did I go? Smile

Much cheers to all.

Very assumption
much argument
wow

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31-08-2014, 11:24 AM
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(31-08-2014 11:16 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Very assumption
much argument
wow

A 'Wow' is good, right? Big Grin

Um... I suppose being 99.999999 repeating might be a little presumptuous. ..... Though, since the evidence is so thin on the ground ( Or anywhere else)...

*Looks around previous comment* Wait... where'd the 'Much argument' come from?

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31-08-2014, 12:05 PM
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(31-08-2014 11:24 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  
(31-08-2014 11:16 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Very assumption
much argument
wow

A 'Wow' is good, right? Big Grin

Um... I suppose being 99.999999 repeating might be a little presumptuous. ..... Though, since the evidence is so thin on the ground ( Or anywhere else)...

*Looks around previous comment* Wait... where'd the 'Much argument' come from?

Much cheers to all.

Evidently you aren't very intelligent. Sorry for wasting your time. I guess I should have expected that from someone who can't know anything.

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