Can stable worm holes exist?
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10-07-2016, 02:49 PM
RE: Can stable worm holes exist?
(10-07-2016 12:01 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(09-07-2016 09:18 PM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  Riiiiiiight. Just how do you plan on doing that?

It's a thought experiment. If stable worm holes can exist, then one can create energy from nothing. So they can't exist because creating energy from nothing violates physics. That was my thinking initially. However I suppose that stable worm holes can exist as long as the space between the entrances is expanding at such a rate that the distance between the entrances is increasing faster than the speed of light.

I speculate that if we find a white hole, the corresponding black hole that feeds it will have to be somewhere outside the observable universe.

That's my whole theory on everything. Not that my theory is based on any technical knowledge but mere interested speculation of what I've read thus far.

I suspect that the big bang is exactly what you're talking about, a "wormhole" between systems.

My logic is this: Energy cannot be created nor destroyed as far as we have discerned. Existence exists. Nothing, by definition cannot exist so this universe obviously did not come from nothing, all matter and energy as we know it came from something already existing. The big bang to me is evidence that some sort of wormhole or something from another universe or dimension or what have you exists or did exist and can/will happen again or is happening now through multiple points in our universe.

I dunno, the concept gets so fucking big and I'm way too layman to really give a shit, but it's fun to think about.

The multiverse theory sounds like it has more weight than any other to me at this point, but again I completely realize my ignorance of the matter.

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10-07-2016, 03:46 PM
RE: Can stable worm holes exist?
To have a stable worm hole one should start with a stable worm to drill a hole in it, since they all like to wriggle so much I doubt if you'll ever find one.
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10-07-2016, 04:13 PM
RE: Can stable worm holes exist?
(10-07-2016 02:56 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  God didn't give you the ability to think abstractly did He?

... says the idiot who says the gods can "do" things without violating their timelessness ?
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11-07-2016, 12:22 AM
RE: Can stable worm holes exist?
(10-07-2016 04:13 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(10-07-2016 02:56 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  God didn't give you the ability to think abstractly did He?

... says the idiot who says the gods can "do" things without violating their timelessness ?
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11-07-2016, 02:44 PM
RE: Can stable worm holes exist?
(10-07-2016 02:44 AM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  Why, oh why, did I open this thread?

That's right, because the mobile version doesn't display the OP's screen name.

When using your mobile, there should be a link at the bottom of the page that'll take you to the desktop version.

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09-08-2016, 12:34 PM
RE: Can stable worm holes exist?
(08-07-2016 11:35 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Consider building this perpetual motion machine
The wormhole is just curved space. The space can be found curved without curving it matter. Just like some thing is flat, some isn't. This perfectly explains the lack of Dark Matter particles in the Earth super-sensitive detectors: Dark Matter is not matter. Note, what in your machine the rest-energy is not growing. The kinetic energy grows with time. So, certain conservation formulas do hold also in curved space-time, making it the approachable by Science.
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09-08-2016, 12:41 PM
RE: Can stable worm holes exist?
Well, whatever you do "walk without rhythm, it won't attract the worm".





Yeah, I know that's a different kind of worm.

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09-08-2016, 01:09 PM (This post was last modified: 09-08-2016 01:20 PM by Commonsensei.)
RE: Can stable worm holes exist?
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09-08-2016, 02:58 PM
RE: Can stable worm holes exist?
(08-07-2016 11:35 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Consider building this perpetual motion machine/

Step 1: Create a worm hole in your laboratory so that one entrance is on the floor and the other entrance is 10' directly above the first.

Step 2: Place a copper coil between the two entrances.

Step 3: Drop a magnet through the coil.

Collect free energy, sell it, and buy EvolutionKills a personality.

Now I imagine that the amount of energy you could collect from such a machine wouldn't come close to keeping your worm hole open. Does this mean that natural, stable worm holes like you see in Star Trek cannot possibly exist?

My brother's neighbor in S St Paul, Minn had a perpetual motion machine. He had a battery operated wheel chair. He'd start with a battery with a very small charge, drive it up the hill and when it ran out of charge he'd turna round and drive down the hill. When he got back to his original position the battery was charged more than it had been when he started up the hill. He'd go back up and come down again and it was more fully charged the second round than it had been the first. He was constantly looking for any one who could and would finance his idea and figure out how it could make millions. All I can say is it seemed to work in the several demonstrations I saw.
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09-08-2016, 06:51 PM
Can stable worm holes exist?
(08-07-2016 11:35 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Consider building this perpetual motion machine/

Step 1: Create a worm hole in your laboratory so that one entrance is on the floor and the other entrance is 10' directly above the first.

Step 2: Place a copper coil between the two entrances.

Step 3: Drop a magnet through the coil.

Collect free energy, sell it, and buy EvolutionKills a personality.

Now I imagine that the amount of energy you could collect from such a machine wouldn't come close to keeping your worm hole open. Does this mean that natural, stable worm holes like you see in Star Trek cannot possibly exist?


1. Create a wormhole and have the entrance right in front of your pelvic area.

2. Place the exit of the wormhole right behind your buttocks.

3. Take a Viagra and make a thrusting motion.
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