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13-03-2017, 09:56 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(13-03-2017 09:51 PM)socialistview Wrote:  I ment abraham. Think like this a pastor lady who gave me my prophecies told us about her story when another lady told her she would become a preacher someday. She said ill be in the club till I die. She got breast cancer survived and now a preacher.

She survived cancer, now she's a preacher.

Reality? Two separate events not correlated.

To you? Must be some meaningful connection there somewhere.

If she was an Atheist she would have had just as much chance at surviving cancer. Same if she was a Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist ect. That part of your statement is a non sequitur

Also.... prophesies? really? sigh..... And you expect people to take you seriously?

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13-03-2017, 10:00 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
She told I will be a missionary to the world and that the whole world will know me. And that went with tarot cards online I did which said I will be rich and famous in the future.
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13-03-2017, 10:32 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(13-03-2017 10:00 PM)socialistview Wrote:  She told I will be a missionary to the world and that the whole world will know me. And that went with tarot cards online I did which said I will be rich and famous in the future.

That's cute, and not a rebuttal to my point. Read my response. Then try harder.

I heard you're ridiculous assertion the first time, I don't need it mindlessly parroted a second time.

Edit^ Wait you're rich and famous? Pics or it didn't happen Tongue

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13-03-2017, 10:49 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(13-03-2017 10:32 PM)JesseB Wrote:  
(13-03-2017 10:00 PM)socialistview Wrote:  She told I will be a missionary to the world and that the whole world will know me. And that went with tarot cards online I did which said I will be rich and famous in the future.

That's cute, and not a rebuttal to my point. Read my response. Then try harder.

I heard you're ridiculous assertion the first time, I don't need it mindlessly parroted a second time.

Edit^ Wait you're rich and famous? Pics or it didn't happen Tongue

You're taking it out of context. He's rich with ignorance and famously stupid.
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14-03-2017, 12:09 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
Dear OP, you appear to be a charlatan. I haven't seen anything scientific out of all your posts in this thread, and I've read them all. You're just tacking on a few buzzwords and trying to coopt "science" into your religion. There's nothing scientific about your study of scripture.

I would love for you to prove me wrong. Please tell me how you will apply the scientific method to your study of scripture, per your OP. 35 pages later and there's still no coherent explanation.

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14-03-2017, 12:30 AM
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I'm thinking he has to be a troll at this point. This is just ridiculous.

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14-03-2017, 05:44 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(13-03-2017 10:00 PM)socialistview Wrote:  She told I will be a missionary to the world and that the whole world will know me. And that went with tarot cards online I did which said I will be rich and famous in the future.

You apparently don't have a clue on how scam artists work. They tell you things that you like to keep you coming back for more.

I was told similar things in prophetic statements from leaders in the church I went to when I was still Christian.

I watched more than one of these prophesiers show how they didn't have a clue to what they were talking about when the church went belly-up due to debt.

Odd that there wasn't a single prophesy foretelling that particular event, but the were all kinds of prophesies foretelling how their church was destined for greatness and had a special role to play in the Last Days before Jesus' return.

Nope, the pastor and his wife died, and the church closed it's doors due to their horrendous financial mismanagement.

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14-03-2017, 05:51 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(13-03-2017 09:30 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  He said the mustard seed was the smallest seed in all the earth.
Mark 4:31 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth

The World's Smallest Fruit

Jesus said that people are crippled by god as punishment for sin.

John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

Birth defects, illness and infirmities are not caused by the gods anymore than thunderstorms and earthquakes.

That's not one but two proven lies.

1) Jesus, as all men, had to learn during His life. To show tha His statement about the mustard seed is a lie, you would have to show that there were other seeds known at that time and in that region to be smaller. It was a common Jewish proverbial expression to compare smallest to a mustard seed. His teaching is about the Kingdom which He likens to the mustard seed. A Kingdom, or nation, is defined by its laws (constitution). This teaching is referring to how little the government of God actually is in life: Judgement, mercy, faith.

2) Jesus never said that the man's impotency was because of sin, just that something worse would happen to him if he continued in his unbelief which is the only true sin there is.

Good try though. I can back all this up with testimonial evidence from scripture.

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14-03-2017, 05:56 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(14-03-2017 05:51 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  Good try though. I can back all this up with testimonial evidence from scripture.

You're deluded. If your God had to learn through his life then what makes you think any of the rubbish he said was true? Also, your OP is bullshit. There's no science involved in "testimonial evidence from scripture".

Just another useless preacher.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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14-03-2017, 06:16 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(14-03-2017 05:51 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  1) Jesus, as all men, had to learn during His life.

So he was not the son of god.

You can't have it both ways. If he was god, he knew. If he was not god, then you're worshipping a false god. Either way, you lose.

(14-03-2017 05:51 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  2) Jesus never said that the man's impotency was because of sin, just that something worse would happen to him if he continued in his unbelief which is the only true sin there is.

Unfortunately for you that doctrine has been taught by multiple Christian sects since the beginning. Even today it is still taught that the evils of the world are caused by the sin of mankind.

(14-03-2017 05:51 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  Good try though. I can back all this up with testimonial evidence from scripture.

No, you are twisting and manipulating eons-old texts to fit your views. Views which you are projecting onto your imaginary friend and foisting on us to prop up your own ego.

(14-03-2017 05:51 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  Offered in the Love of Christ,
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