Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
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21-03-2017, 06:05 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
1 corinthians 15

42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 
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21-03-2017, 06:17 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(21-03-2017 05:56 PM)socialistview Wrote:  How do you know that show me what you know about the geological records and archeological evidence for genesis and exodus.

Egypt controlled the entire Near East. It would make NO SENSE for the Jews to go from one place they controlled to another place they controlled. There is NO evidence for an Exodus.
Genesis is known by scholars to be a combinations of myths.
You know NOTHING about the Bible.

And stop quoting the Bible, UNTIL you have PROVEN it has any authority.




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21-03-2017, 06:20 PM (This post was last modified: 21-03-2017 06:24 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(21-03-2017 06:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  1 corinthians 15

42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 

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If there is a green body, there is also a pink body.

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21-03-2017, 06:38 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(21-03-2017 06:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  1 corinthians 15

42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 

That doesn't mention shame or humiliation; dishonor is close but not the same.

That aside, you claimed that Jesus said this. Why should we care that a fictionalized character said anything? Since there is zero evidence of a "spiritual body" it all seems rather pointless.

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21-03-2017, 06:46 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(21-03-2017 05:56 PM)socialistview Wrote:  How do you know that show me what you know about the geological records and archeological evidence for genesis and exodus.

Bucky provided a good link regarding the myth of Exodus. Here's a start for the age of the earth, the development of humans, and the diversification of language (no tower of babel involved).

Wikipedia isn't a solid source but for this level of inquiry it's a good start and there are plenty of links to better sources in the articles. Perhaps reading something other than the bible would do you good. The nice thing is that this is all based on actual evidence that can be examined and tested and doesn't require any "faith" at all.

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21-03-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(01-03-2017 07:23 PM)docskeptic Wrote:  Q. No
T. Yes
Could you please support your answers?

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21-03-2017, 09:34 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(01-03-2017 07:34 PM)Jay Vogelsong Wrote:  
(01-03-2017 07:21 PM)hecrow55 Wrote:  Test: Can any of the sayings of Jesus be proved to be a lie?

Can any of the sayings of Jesus be proved to be *true*? I am not asking that rhetorically.

The standards of scholarship can be and have been applied to the study of the Gospels, but I don't think the standards of science can or they would have been already.

Religion and science are separate and can't be united, or they would have been already. Had there been an actual God behind the Bible, he could have laid out everything we now know about General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, biological evolution, the evolution of stars and planets, germ theory, electricity, anatomy, the weather, principles of sanitation, and so on. But he didn't. We had to figure it all out ourselves.
He didn't ask if the Bible was a science book.

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21-03-2017, 09:34 PM
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(21-03-2017 09:33 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(01-03-2017 07:23 PM)docskeptic Wrote:  Q. No
T. Yes
Could you please support your answers?

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21-03-2017, 10:24 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(21-03-2017 09:34 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  
(21-03-2017 09:33 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Could you please support your answers?

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22-03-2017, 12:20 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(21-03-2017 05:06 PM)socialistview Wrote:  How can you say with a clear concious that these are fables and it didnt happen?

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Archaeology
History
Geology
Biology
Palentology
Reality
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Yup.... That's how we can say those stories are fables. Like they don't even come close to lining up with history, it's utter bullshit on every level from top to bottom.

Here's a suggestion. Try reading a history book for once in your life.

(Fun fact the bible references domesticated camels being around at a time in human history when no camels were domesticated.... no really..... look it up).

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