Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
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22-03-2017, 06:40 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(22-03-2017 06:29 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  
(22-03-2017 06:03 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  Try holding a Bible in your hand and say the line.

Which bible?

Which ever version you choose. The study to find the truth depends on how deep you want to dig to find the bedrock to set your foundation on.
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22-03-2017, 06:45 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(22-03-2017 06:40 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  
(22-03-2017 06:29 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Which bible?

Which ever version you choose. The study to find the truth depends on how deep you want to dig to find the bedrock to set your foundation on.

Hecrow, are you related to Borgy? Your posts read in a similar way.

Anyway can read this post from earlier from FatBaldHobbit?

Also, I've said this a lot in recent posts, but what is the point you're trying to make? And can you say it in 100 words or less? We're just going round in circles at the moment. Laugh out load

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22-03-2017, 07:16 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(22-03-2017 06:03 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  Try holding a Bible in your hand and say the line.

Everyone knows that spawn of Satan like us will instantly combust if we do that Dodgy

You probably believe that Weeping

It's fucking 2017!

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22-03-2017, 07:42 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(22-03-2017 06:40 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  
(22-03-2017 06:29 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Which bible?

Which ever version you choose. The study to find the truth depends on how deep you want to dig to find the bedrock to set your foundation on.

Yes, indeed it does.

When you picked up your bible, what efforts did you make to determine it's accuracy?

Using a basic grasp of history, say a western culture high-school education, you know that there was indeed a Roman Empire and that there were countries like Egypt and Israel and Greece.

Using our western culture you'd know what they dressed like, mostly, what the weapons and armor looked like. You might know a little about the food and customs of that region and time period.

So you pick up your bible and read it and on the surface, it sounds okay. Places, cultures, etc. But the same things can be said about the Iliad and the Odyssey.

Why is the magic in your bible real and the magic of the Iliad false?

Did you read any biblical scholars? Secular as well as christian?

Did you read anything about apocalyptic fiction and it's role in that era?

What about the history of Israel and Egypt?

You quote the bible in Ancient Greek.
The oldest gospels were indeed written in Greek.
Classical Greek, written by trained, eloquent scholars.
A far cry from the illiterate, Aramaic-speaking fishermen described in the same gospels.

What about the role of the gospels? Historical texts or sales pitches?

What about the authors? Who actually wrote what and when?
The forged books?
The apocrypha?
Why is the gospel of judas not worthy to be considered?

Do you know what orthodoxy is and how it was established?

How deep did you dig?

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22-03-2017, 07:53 AM (This post was last modified: 22-03-2017 08:02 AM by OakTree500.)
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
What year, supposedly, is the "end" of the bible?

I think the main point to be raised with theists who like to thump their bibles is: "why is god present, through-out all of your history [from creation] up until [Year X]?" Like why isn't god around right now doing all this garbage that apparently happened?

He/She/It flooded the world because it was full of war/bad people, then what the bloody hell do we have now? Why isn't it happening again now? or why hasn't it happened, again supposedly since whenever it originally happened?

The answer is, because its a story. A fictional story, full of tales with supposed "moral's" that people have taken literally for hundreds/thousands of years, used to control people and trick them into behaving themselves.

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22-03-2017, 08:01 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(22-03-2017 06:40 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  The study to find the truth depends on how deep you want to dig to find the bedrock to set your foundation on.

The study to find any truth has to be connected to the world outside your storybook. There is no "bedrock" within the bubble that is the bible.

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22-03-2017, 08:18 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(22-03-2017 06:40 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  Which ever version you choose. The study to find the truth depends on how deep you want to dig to find the bedrock to set your foundation on.

That's kind of a bullshit / thoughtless pile of nonsense, right there, He-Cow.
Bedrock is where it is. (Yours is quite shallow, as we have seen ... as you never thought it worth your while to actually take a class about the Bible), but that aside, wherever one finds "bedrock", then "digging deeper" isn't going to produce anything more solid, now is it ? But that crappy statement IS the kind of sentimental drivel you people are known for spewing, in your pathetic attempt to try to make it appear you have some sort of moral/intellectual high ground. You don't. You're just a pathetic ignoramus who *needs* to try to tell HIMSELF that he has some sort of expertise in something he doesn't have, and never will. You couldn't pass Biblical Studies 101 anywhere.

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22-03-2017, 08:55 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(22-03-2017 06:03 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  Try holding a Bible in your hand and say the line.

Why? Huh What are you expecting to happen if someone does this?

I'm sorry, but your beliefs are much too silly to take seriously. Got anything else we can discuss?
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22-03-2017, 09:03 AM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(22-03-2017 06:40 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  
(22-03-2017 06:29 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Which bible?

Which ever version you choose. The study to find the truth depends on how deep you want to dig to find the bedrock to set your foundation on.

Cherry-picking which meaning of words you use to force sense upon the text isn't "digging deeper", it's just post-hoc rationalization.

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

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22-03-2017, 02:51 PM
RE: Can the study of scripture be done in a scientific way?
(22-03-2017 08:55 AM)Astreja Wrote:  
(22-03-2017 06:03 AM)hecrow55 Wrote:  Try holding a Bible in your hand and say the line.

Why? Huh What are you expecting to happen if someone does this?

The allegedly magic Jew will shine on us from the sky and infect our brains with the same drivel that he spouts.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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