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20-03-2017, 11:18 AM
RE: Can we stop blaming Trump?
Bucky Ball Wrote:Trump is a fraud.
OK, this is Bucky Ball's opinion. I have mine.

Bucky Ball Wrote:He was GIVEN his fortune.
So? I prefer someone who is already rich and wants to help others than the one who is poor and runs for office to become rich like Clintons, for example.

Bucky Ball Wrote:He never worked for a public company,
So? May be it is a good thing for a change. So many those who work forever in public companies fail us, lie to us, get rich.

Bucky Ball Wrote:never answered to a board, ran a number of businesses into bankruptcy.
So? It can happen to anyone.

Bucky Ball Wrote:If you wanted a businessman, the least you could have done, is found a good one.

I didn't vote for him in primary. I voted for Ted Cruz. But when I had to choose between Clinton and Trump there was no doubt in my mind that Clinton does NOT DESERVE my vote.

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20-03-2017, 11:23 AM
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Bucky Ball Wrote:Nope. Actually Romney admitted the ACA was HIS plan, and it was written by the (Republican) Heritage Foundation.
But Obama and Democrats made it the law of the land. They didn't even know what they voted for. Let's pass the bill so we can find out what is in it. How irresponsible.

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20-03-2017, 11:25 AM
RE: Can we stop blaming Trump?
(20-03-2017 11:08 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(20-03-2017 11:01 AM)Alla Wrote:  Are you better off then 8 years ago?

Unequivocally yes. My net worth doubled.
I believe you. But may I ask you a personal question: what do you do for a living?

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20-03-2017, 11:29 AM
RE: Can we stop blaming Trump?
(20-03-2017 11:25 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(20-03-2017 11:08 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Unequivocally yes. My net worth doubled.
I believe you. But may I ask you a personal question: what do you do for a living?

(20-03-2017 11:18 AM)Alla Wrote:  So many those who work forever in public companies fail us, lie to us, get rich.

I work in a public company, failing and lying to you so I can get rich.

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20-03-2017, 11:52 AM
RE: Can we stop blaming Trump?
(20-03-2017 11:18 AM)Alla Wrote:  
Bucky Ball Wrote:Trump is a fraud.
OK, this is Bucky Ball's opinion. I have mine.

Bucky Ball Wrote:He was GIVEN his fortune.
So? I prefer someone who is already rich and wants to help others than the one who is poor and runs for office to become rich like Clintons, for example.

Bucky Ball Wrote:He never worked for a public company,
So? May be it is a good thing for a change. So many those who work forever in public companies fail us, lie to us, get rich.

Bucky Ball Wrote:never answered to a board, ran a number of businesses into bankruptcy.
So? It can happen to anyone.

Bucky Ball Wrote:If you wanted a businessman, the least you could have done, is found a good one.

I didn't vote for him in primary. I voted for Ted Cruz. But when I had to choose between Clinton and Trump there was no doubt in my mind that Clinton does NOT DESERVE my vote.

Trump doesn't want to help anyone except himself and has an ego larger than Alaska. Where on earth did you get the idea he wants to help poorer people ? Your post is insanity 101, talk about cognitive dissonanceNo
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20-03-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: Can we stop blaming Trump?
Trump and Republicans just started. I will give them a little more time.
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Trump may have just started, but the Republican party has been "off the reservation" for many years. They spent the last two presidential terms ensuring they were the least productive in history (unless the subject was closing down clinics and defunding Planned Parenthood), behavior so disgusting and childish it has forever made it impossible for me to vote for a single member of that party.

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20-03-2017, 12:48 PM
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(20-03-2017 11:18 AM)Alla Wrote:  
Bucky Ball Wrote:never answered to a board, ran a number of businesses into bankruptcy.
So? It can happen to anyone.

Six times? There's not that many people that can be so inept that they keep bankrupting their business. Yes, he's declared bankruptcy six times and three of them were casinos. How the hell can anyone bankrupt a casino when the odds are in favor of the house. This takes a special kind of stupidity to accomplish this.

He has never been the CEO of a publically owned business so he's never had to deal with a board of directors or disclose any of his finances to stockholders. He has always done what he wanted, never had to share his private dealings and judging from the outcome of these deals, he's made horrible decisions. This man is a clueless, fucked up narcissist and should be thrown in a nuthouse.

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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20-03-2017, 12:55 PM
RE: Can we stop blaming Trump?
(20-03-2017 11:01 AM)Alla Wrote:  
Thumpalumpacus Wrote:Because they've spent eighteen months actively campaigning on "replacing" ACA, and now that they have control of the Executive and Legislative Branches, they still cannot agree on anything but stripping people of their coverage.
I agree with you, we would assume they were ready to replace ACA with something much, much better. I am willing to give them some time.
Thumpalumpacus Wrote:Instead, give your vote to a crooked businessman who doesn't know the first thing about how to get things done? This is laughably naive on the part of anyone who voted for Trump for reasons of his "integrity".
If Trump didn't know how to get things done he wouldn't become President. I didn't believe Trump will keep his promises. I am pleasantly surprised he kept some of his promises already and he tries hard to keep many more. I can say:"good job, Mr. President. You are hard working president. You meet so many people former president Obama ignored".

Why (in your opinion) is it better to prefer crooked politician over crooked businessman? Especially such crooked politician as Hillary Clinton? Look what she did in Libya? Look what happened to her "reset" or more accurately "overload" button with Russia? Look what she did with her private server and with deleted emails?
Thumpalumpacus Wrote:The ACA is a mixed bag. It has hurt some, and saved the lives of others. I would call it "imperfect" rather than "horrible", myself. Full disclosure: as a veteran who receives his healthcare through the VA, the ACA could neither help nor hurt me.
This is not how Obama and Democrats sold ACA. Lie of the year: "if you like your plan you can keep your plan, period. if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, period". It was sold this way:"let's pass the bill and only then let's find out what is in it". It was sold the way that American people are so, so stupid they wouldn't understand what lies they were sold". One of ACA architects Gruber said this. Yes, this Democrat Gruber said you were too stupid. Does it make you angry? Or only lies of Republicans make you angry?

Thumpalumpacus Wrote:You keep on placing your hopes in "those who screw us all the time", then.
I assume you had your hopes in politician Obama who lied to American people": if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, period". That's what we do. We vote and we hope they don't lie.
Are you better off then 8 years ago?



Me, I'm keeping a watch on both parties, and right now, the Republicans, led by Trump, look especially shitty. They need to come up with something really strong to keep their base of working-class whites, while at the same time not alienating the business class which is funding their campaigning.
Obama had 8 years and he abandoned working class whites and LATINOS and BLACKS, not only whites. Democrats abandoned them. Trump and Republicans just started. I will give them a little more time.

"You are hard working president. You meet so many people former president Obama ignored"

Really? Hard working? Has he started getting briefings yet? Does he actually read intelligence reports?

Obama ignored the conspiracy-believing (and propagating) right wing fringe elements, and for good reason. Trump employs them, and believes anything they say to him.

Let us all hope his "mean face" and playground bully language are not enough to bait his North Korean (idol, hero, standard for excellence) counterpart into launching nukes all over Asia.

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20-03-2017, 01:12 PM
RE: Can we stop blaming Trump?
(20-03-2017 12:55 PM)Vivian Darkbloom Wrote:  Let us all hope his "mean face" and playground bully language are not enough to bait his North Korean (idol, hero, standard for excellence) counterpart into launching nukes all over Asia.

That won't happen. Like all the Kims he's enjoying the good life too much. The nukes are just a life insurance policy. One that always pay out in this day and age. Noone marks you for regime change if you got nukes and one of the thriving economical capitals right at your doorstep.
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20-03-2017, 04:01 PM (This post was last modified: 20-03-2017 04:07 PM by Alla.)
RE: Can we stop blaming Trump?
GirlyMan Wrote:I work in a public company,

OK. So, do you think blue color workers (of all races) are better off now then 8 years ago?

GirlyMan Wrote:failing and lying to you so I can get rich.
May be not you. May be you are not as rich as former president Obama. May be you are not as rich as former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Trump is already very rich. He doesn't need to become POTUS to be rich.

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