Can you give me scientific references to mass loss during the pass over?
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19-08-2016, 11:28 AM
RE: Can you give me scientific references to mass loss during the pass over?
(17-08-2016 06:47 AM)theBorg Wrote:  Dear Scientist, the case is simple: state number 1: human body has mass M. State number 2: human body (together with all the leaked out fluids and gases) has mass m. Thus, the energy, which would be released into surroundings is M c^2 - m c^2. Therefore, the entire USA would be blown away. Why then not?

Okay, I'm actually going to try to answer this.

It's quite simple, theBorg: The energy is stored at the atomic level, and when a human body rots in the grave or is cremated, nothing happens to the actual atoms. There will be chemical reactions at the level of molecules through decay or burning, with old compounds broken down and new ones created, but they're using the same atoms and therefore there is no earth-shattering kaboom.
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19-08-2016, 02:16 PM
RE: Can you give me scientific references to mass loss during the pass over?
(19-08-2016 11:28 AM)Astreja Wrote:  
(17-08-2016 06:47 AM)theBorg Wrote:  Dear Scientist, the case is simple: state number 1: human body has mass M. State number 2: human body (together with all the leaked out fluids and gases) has mass m. Thus, the energy, which would be released into surroundings is M c^2 - m c^2. Therefore, the entire USA would be blown away. Why then not?

Okay, I'm actually going to try to answer this.

It's quite simple, theBorg: The energy is stored at the atomic level, and when a human body rots in the grave or is cremated, nothing happens to the actual atoms. There will be chemical reactions at the level of molecules through decay or burning, with old compounds broken down and new ones created, but they're using the same atoms and therefore there is no earth-shattering kaboom.
Yup, you said it, Astreja!

Borgy, you asked, elsewhere, where the mass/energy that was "lost" at death went.

Then you complain about scientific answers, your question required either a quick lesson in science or a single word answer: "Poof!"

I gave you the politest option there.

Now, either accept or reject our answers, asking over and again will only get you more sarcasm or worse.

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19-08-2016, 06:29 PM
RE: Can you give me scientific references to mass loss during the pass over?
If souls have mass then they should be attracted to other mass. That would mean that when your soul detaches at death it should fall to the center of the Earth. Dress light, you're going some place warm.

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19-08-2016, 06:34 PM
RE: Can you give me scientific references to mass loss during the pass over?
(19-08-2016 08:19 AM)theBorg Wrote:  
(18-08-2016 07:33 PM)SYZ Wrote:  Science-based forums like this have an expectation of its members inputting their own data—not simply asking question after question like a little kid.
You made wrong judgment: I have avoided the "Science" section and put it into "Skepticism, ..., Conspiracy...".

You did a piss poor job of the title and opening post then.

(17-08-2016 06:47 AM)theBorg Wrote:  I am polite enough: "Can you give me scientific references to mass loss during the pass over?" I am asking not for silly-looking debates, I am asking for the links to verified research papers.

Dishonest little twerp.

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20-08-2016, 01:59 PM
RE: Can you give me scientific references to mass loss during the pass over?
(17-08-2016 06:47 AM)theBorg Wrote:  The energy of Hiroshima atomic explosion is the 0.7 gram. The lost of weight during human death ranges from 2.5 to 22.4 gram (the Russian Internet Resource, and I think, that any natural leak of matter was considered and calculated). So, the really the supernatural thing is happening.

Sorry I'm late to the party but there is an easier way to test this ... When the soul enters the body
(I read most of the thread, so I hope I'm not repeating someone else)

Did some googling and it seems a fertilized human egg starts with a weight of approx. .0042mg to .00177mg. So even if we take your lowest number 2.5 grams, then there is no soul entering the embryo at the time of conception... quick someone tell the pope!

In fact the embryo only gets to the weight of 2 grams around week 9, so abortion before then should be cool with all you religious people.

So now we wait and watch for the moment when the embryo/fetus suddenly gains 2.5 grams of weight without a corresponding increase in mass or volume. Easy test I love it.

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20-08-2016, 02:04 PM
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