Can you show this proof of God's existence to be wrong?
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13-11-2013, 05:35 AM
RE: Can you show this proof of God's existence to be wrong?
(13-11-2013 05:16 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(13-11-2013 04:52 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Your talking fantasy. Kim said the video was errant because her unsubstantiated claim was right. She made no attempt to actually critique the contents of the video.

You are a dense and obtuse as a brick. The video failed to substantiate it's claim. If the video had made a good argument or been able to substantiate it's claim, THEN and only THEN would Kim be required to provide evidence more compelling than 'because I said so'. The video failed miserably, you yourself claim to not even buy into it. So simply noting that the video failed to make it's point is not a claim that requires substantiation, it's a simple observation of another's failure.

The video is bullshit. For my evidence I cite the arguments made as such in this very thread.

Now go away and try to be pedantic someplace else.

Sorry bro, you're the one being the dumbass here.

I asked in the OP "to expose the error in his thinking". Kim did no such thing...nor did she attempt to do such a thing. Instead she chose to "refute" his claim with a claim of her own.....which is silly.

You should be embarrassed that you are actually defending Kim's action in this thread.
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13-11-2013, 08:29 AM
RE: Can you show this proof of God's existence to be wrong?
(13-11-2013 05:35 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  You should be embarrassed that you are actually defending Kim's action in this thread.

If a claim fails, dismissing it is not a counter-claim you fucktard.

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13-11-2013, 08:38 AM (This post was last modified: 13-11-2013 08:48 AM by Free.)
RE: Can you show this proof of God's existence to be wrong?
(13-11-2013 04:17 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(12-11-2013 07:04 PM)Free Wrote:  You are suggesting that Kim is somehow obligated to prove a negative. If something is not evidently there, how can you prove it isn't there?

Kim is under no obligation to prove the non existence of God, since proving a negative cannot be accomplished. The burden of proof is always upon the claimant.

Hence, since the guy in the video is making the positive claim of God's existence, and has miserably failed to do it, Kim's statement of "the error in his thinking is thinking he can prove something that doesn't exist" is both qualified and justified.

I'm not asking Kim to prove a negative.

Yes, you absolutely did. You stated the following:

Quote:Besides you can't show that God doesn't exist, so you have no business making the claim you did.

Which implies that Kim's claim of the man's argument being false is somehow invalidated because she cannot prove that God doesn't exist.

Essentially you stated that Kim had no business of making the claim that "the error in his thinking is thinking he can prove something that doesn't exist," because Kim "can't show that God doesn't exist."

So yes, you absolutely did indeed challenge Kim to prove a negative so that she could qualify her claim.

Hence, your response to Kim's argument was a logical error.

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13-11-2013, 01:14 PM
RE: Can you show this proof of God's existence to be wrong?
(13-11-2013 08:38 AM)Free Wrote:  
(13-11-2013 04:17 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I'm not asking Kim to prove a negative.

Yes, you absolutely did. You stated the following:

Quote:Besides you can't show that God doesn't exist, so you have no business making the claim you did.

Which implies that Kim's claim of the man's argument being false is somehow invalidated because she cannot prove that God doesn't exist.

Essentially you stated that Kim had no business of making the claim that "the error in his thinking is thinking he can prove something that doesn't exist," because Kim "can't show that God doesn't exist."

So yes, you absolutely did indeed challenge Kim to prove a negative so that she could qualify her claim.

Hence, your response to Kim's argument was a logical error.

Kim claimed the man's claim was wrong because her own claim was right. Now such a tactic would be fine provided Kim went on to prove her own claim....she did not....she can not....she knows she can not. She is guilty of just trying fucktard this thread instead of having an actual discussion. This is poor form coming from anyone, but especially egregious because she is a moderator. She deserved to be called out for it.
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