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14-01-2013, 07:02 PM
Catholic question
As seen on a catholic website....

"If a husband chooses to get a vasectomy, how does it effect the salvation of his wife when she protested his decision?"



Cause ya know....its the womans fault.


Seriously?

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14-01-2013, 07:08 PM
RE: Catholic question
Well, it certainly isn't God's.

You can't rely on that guy to tell you when to pull out.

Is this place still a shithole run by a dumbass calvinist?
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14-01-2013, 07:09 PM
RE: Catholic question
Yep, it was and is always the woman's fault. According to Catholics, women come last in all things.(except temptations then we're first)...thank goodness for Mary otherwise we'd really be crap.

That said, I don't mind attending a mass, I just love the rituals.


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14-01-2013, 07:10 PM
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My unmarried sister and a formerly good family friend acted as
godmothers for my second son seven years ago. Now they say they are
involved in a homosexual relationship (with each other). When I asked my
sister how we were going to handle this, she replied that she wished
she could undo the baptism thing, meaning not be a godmother anymore and
not be responsible for my children.



I do love my sister very much but I definitely not want my children
involved with a same-sex couple that is not very respectful of us as
parents. We have the "advantage" of living in a different country, but
my boys still ask about their aunt's friend and I wonder what is one to
do when something like this happens. I do not want people who actively
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It is fortunate for you that your sister and her friend live in
another country and are not interested in acting as godmothers anymore.
(Two women cannot serve as and should not have been asked to be
godmothers to one child anyway, but that is a side issue). All you have
to do is to build on that distance. Assure your sister that you will
find someone else to act as a spiritual mentor to your children so that
she will not have to concern herself with that. Then look around your
circle of friends and family for a spiritually mature, orthodox Catholic
who can be a spiritual mentor. In time that person might be asked to
be a confirmation sponsor. As for your children, it might be helpful
for parents to learn that there is no need to answer every question they
ask in exact terms. When they ask about your sister's friend, just say
vaguely, "I'm not sure where she is right now; we've lost touch with
her. Please remember her in your prayers." Then change the subject.












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This "apologist" is bad and she should feel bad.

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
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2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
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14-01-2013, 07:20 PM
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Is it a sin to be fey?

I have a close friend, a faithful practicing Catholic who has flashes
(mind pictures) of things past (of which the person would have no
reason to know) and some things future which have come to pass. This
person has not sought after this ability and has no control over it.
Things just seem to pop to mind. There is a pattern of this in some of
the forebears of this person. The Irish call it being fey. There have so
far, over a number of years, been no incidents of false flashes or
insights. This person also has an uncanny ability to read character when
meeting someone. If this person does not seek to know things in this
way, how could it be considered superstitious or sinful?


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Re: Is it a sin to be fey?
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If this person does not seek to know things in this way, how could it be considered superstitious or sinful?

Who said it was superstitious or sinful? A person is not morally
culpable for that he does not will. Only if one deliberately seeks out
knowledge of the past or future through occult means, or if one puts
groundless faith in supernatural or occult phenomena is there a problem.

In your friend's case, however, even though you report that this person
does not intentionally seek out such knowledge about the past, future,
or other people's souls, he should be careful not to share that he has
such an ability with impressionable souls who may very easily
misunderstand the nature of what is given to this person. Sharing such
knowledge with those who do not understand what is going on could be a
cause of grave scandal.

In other words, although you report that this person has not sought
after forbidden knowledge, there is a danger that this person can be
tempted to develop his supernatural abilities and/or exploit this
knowledge he's been given. For that reason, I strongly recommend that
this person seek assistance from an orthodox and balanced
confessor/spiritual director for help in dealing with this phenomena in a
manner that is in keeping with his Catholic faith.

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E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
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14-01-2013, 07:28 PM
RE: Catholic question
Taken to the extreme even Vatican Roulette can be seen as sinful.
If highly aroused peeps deny their God given arousal, they thwart the plan of their creator
facing further wrath, especially where coitus interuptus leads to splashed, maligned Ohmy and wasted sperm.
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14-01-2013, 08:06 PM
RE: Catholic question
All I am sure of it that the Catholics frown on contraception except for the rhythm method.

Old joke from my RC days:

Ya know why they call it practicing rhythm...
Because you can never perfect it.

Explained the kids I grew up with that had from three to a dozen siblings.

True story...my dad was a large animal vet in Iowa. Farmers often came in to the office at the house to pic up meds or to pay on their bills. One long-standing client came in with small kids with him. My mother knew his some of his children were out of high school so she asked if these young ones were his grandchildren...to which he responded...nope, that's my second crop. I will never forget that man's name, just because of that remark.

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14-01-2013, 11:37 PM
RE: Catholic question
Her salvation wouldn't be affected if she ceases to have sexual relations with him or stop before letting him ejaculate.

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15-01-2013, 12:07 AM
RE: Catholic question
oh man there was a website... i dont remember what it was. a forum of some sort. someone posted it earlier when i registered and it was all these people asking what they should do and a catholic response thing. questions from "is it ok to masturbate" to "if x happens with y and i say shit.. can my dog still go to heaven?" obviously a stretch of truth on the last example but really crazy stuff.
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15-01-2013, 01:39 AM (This post was last modified: 15-01-2013 01:50 AM by Aseptic Skeptic.)
RE: Catholic question
(14-01-2013 07:02 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  As seen on a catholic website....

"If a husband chooses to get a vasectomy, how does it effect the salvation of his wife when she protested his decision?"

Cause ya know....its the womans fault.

Seriously?

I'm not sure we're taking the quote in the correct context.

(Wow, now I sound like an apologist; I almost regret that I actually meant the above statement)

What is being questioned here is not whether the woman protested the vasectomy, nor whether her allowing the vasectomy is sinful or not, nor whether anything is her fault.

Catholics are big-deal serious about no birth control. A husband and wife must be engaging in sex for procreation. Birth control of any kind is bad. If a husband puts on a condom and the wife knows he is using it and she consents to sex with that condom then they are both committing a sin. Both of them are putting their salvation at risk. If a husband sneaks on a condom and the wife doesn't know (it's possible - if she's a good Catholic she would have no experience to recognize one) then she has given no consent and only the husband is sinning.

Likewise, if the husband and wife agree to a vasectomy, then they are both agreeing to use birth control and both are jeopardizing their salvation. But if she protests and he insists and does it anyway, then he is the only one sinning and her salvation is not in danger.

So it's not about her at all - if she does the right thing she's not culpable.

My question is, after he gets the procedure and she knows about it (and properly protested to maintain her state of grace), and then she says "hey, hubby, let's go do the nasty" knowing full well that birth control is in place, is she now consenting to sinful birth control or is she off the hook based on her initial protestation of the procedure?

Now I gotta go, oh, I dunno, something like repent but not, for my self-loathing at having apologized on behalf of the Catholic asylum.

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