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20-11-2013, 04:24 PM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(20-11-2013 03:22 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  
(20-11-2013 02:47 PM)Anjele Wrote:  It's been shared in churches...

Very impressive source...are you lost, have you forgotten where you are? Seriously are you ill?

I know atheists like to quote sources. I do too, when they're ironclad, since atheists just like Christians love to discredit sources!

Jesus liked to do differently, rather than to quote sources in the Pharisaical/Rabbinic tradition, He quoted scripture or gave some thought-provoking questions. In other words, always getting you to the source of God or to think.

Watch--we don't need sources--that you can also argue--as if you are blissfully unaware of the endless rounds of debates on college campuses as to the validity and necessity of porn.

Are you a feminist? Do feminists defend porn?-they don't and I don't... I'm on the side of the liberals here, my friend, not the libertarians...

Let's just use logic. I'll ask you some questions and you can formulate your own opinion. I want us to find agreement and harmony here.

Do porn actors and participants strike you as healthy, holistic, confident people?

Do you think after several days of filming gratuitous sex with multiple partners-- even strangers they don't know until filming begins--porn actors go home to happy marriages and other stable love relationships?

Will their future children have healthy mores and safe boundaries mentally and emotionally if they grow old enough to see their parents' past performances on camera?

If I offered you $50,000 to do porn for one year, say, 35 films, would you do so? Why or why not?

Do you think men and women who watch porn frequently are more or less likely to respect other men and women in sexual contexts? Why or why not?

Porn is called "adult entertainment". Do you think there are more or less consequences for ten- and twelve-year-olds who watch porn then there are for seeing an R-rated movie without parental guidance? Why is that?

In your own love life, do you sometimes have trouble focusing on your partner? If during sex, do you fantasize about porn you've seen?

Are you aware of typical porn addiction testimonies that say harder and harder pornography was needed to climax and receive pleasure? Why do you think that is? Others say masturbation and fantasy even became preferred over sex with an adult partner. Is that a healthy lifestyle?

If we need not feel guilt about lust, would you be comfortable sharing that you masturbate to porn on nationwide TV? Why or why not? Do you think all sexual guilt is rooted in religion or in culture or could there be a different source?

Thanks.

Dude ...

Do not FUCK with my porn!

You will go to hell for that ...

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20-11-2013, 04:48 PM
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I have a question.

I like to make my own porn, but with the use of 3d models in the source engine. How does Jazus feel about that?
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20-11-2013, 04:48 PM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(20-11-2013 04:24 PM)Free Wrote:  Dude ...

Do not FUCK with my porn!

You will go to hell for that ...

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You've got a really good fucking point there!

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20-11-2013, 04:53 PM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(20-11-2013 04:48 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  I have a question.

I like to make my own porn, but with the use of 3d models in the source engine. How does Jazus feel about that?

Jazus will really enjoy that and will keep an eye on it. However, he will have to burn you forever. Yes

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20-11-2013, 04:55 PM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(20-11-2013 04:53 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(20-11-2013 04:48 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  I have a question.

I like to make my own porn, but with the use of 3d models in the source engine. How does Jazus feel about that?

Jazus will really enjoy that and will keep an eye on it. However, he will have to burn you forever. Yes

Watched porn a finite amount of times? Burn forever! Seems fair and legit. DA BIBBOOOOOOL SAYS SOOOOOOO!

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20-11-2013, 04:57 PM
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Thankfully Aphrodite will understand and let me into Elysium Smile
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20-11-2013, 05:25 PM (This post was last modified: 20-11-2013 06:32 PM by Mark Fulton.)
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
Why do churches badmouth sex? I think St Paul got the ball rolling, and churches have jumped on the bandwagon as it helps them control people. Here's my two cents worth on this...

Paul loathed his own sexuality.
“The fact is, I know of nothing good living in me—living, that is, in my unspiritual self—for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing good the things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want. When I act against my will, then, it is not my true self doing it, but sin which lives in me…I can see my body follows a different law that battles against the law which my reason dictates…What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body doomed to death” (Rom. 7:18–24, NJB.)

Poor, pathetic Paul! Deluded with puritanical ideas, he was repulsed by his own libido and miserable. He was a suppressed, toxic little man, ill at ease with himself.

It’s no surprise he was celibate:
“I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn” (1 Cor. 7:8–9, KJV.)

To be single was quite unusual for a Pharisee, as they were expected to marry. I suspect Paul would have had difficulty finding a woman willing to live with him. Or he may have been homosexual, yet ashamed to be, so he lived “in the closet.” Whatever the case, he quite clearly had a neurosis about sex:

"For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live” (Rom. 8:6–13, KJV.)

"He wants you to keep away from fornication and each one of you to know how to use the body that belongs to him in a way that is holy and honorable, not giving away to selfish lust like the pagans who do not know God, He wants nobody at all to ever sin by taking advantage of a brother in these matters; the Lord always punishes sins of that sort, as we told you before and assured you. We have been called by God to be holy, not to be immoral” (1 Thess. 4:3–7, NJB.)

“Yes, it is a good thing for a man not to touch a woman. But since sex is always a danger, let each man have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband must give his wife what she has the right to expect, and so too the wife to the husband. The wife has no rights over her own body; it is the husband who has them. In the same way, the husband has no rights over his body; the wife has them. Do not refuse each other except by mutual consent, and then only for an agreed time, to leave yourselves free for prayer; then come together again in case Satan should take advantage of your weakness to tempt you” (1 Cor. 7:1–6, NJB.)

My commentary is almost superfluous. He thought sex was distasteful, an annoying but necessary nuisance, like going to the toilet. He thought people should get it over with quickly, so they could get on with praying. He implied people should get married so sex was on tap; that a spouse served a similar function as a convenient toilet.

From where did he get this sour, jaundiced perspective? He may have been sexually abused as a child, or had erectile difficulties, or been disgusted by his own attraction towards men, or been brainwashed with Platonic ideas about base bodily functions. He may have thought the end of the world was imminent, so it was better to not reproduce.

I think he was perturbed by the fact that sex was a distraction, because it was way more interesting than his spiritual profundities. So he tried to control the sexual part of people’s lives too.

While most people today quite rightly dismiss this dogma, a sizable minority doesn’t. Consider the psychological damage caused by negativity about sex inflicted on millions of innocent people through their Christian upbringings. All youngsters explore their sexuality; yet the child or adolescent is told that such behaviors—even thoughts—are sins! The consequence is unnecessary guilt and shame. The psychology here was worked out centuries ago. The church’s underlying agenda has always been to get people to dislike themselves. When an ego is wounded, a person is easier to control. The virgin Jesus, pure and sinless, comes to the rescue, sexual sins are forgiven, and the church has conned another customer. The punter is saved from a problem he never had in the first place.

This guilt about our most natural instincts is a filthy stain that’s hard to wash out of people’s minds once it has taken root. Shame on churches for promoting this as the word of God!

Sex is a special, natural, wholesome, and beautiful part of life. It’s a private affair, so preachers should butt out of people’s personal practices.
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20-11-2013, 09:49 PM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(20-11-2013 03:22 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Are you a feminist? Do feminists defend porn?-they don't...

Bullshit. You are making shit up as you go along, and you don't have the slightest fucking clue what you are prattling on about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_pornography

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20-11-2013, 09:52 PM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(20-11-2013 01:43 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  It's been shared in churches nationwide recently

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So your brainwashers brainwashed you with propaganda in your church. Again. And you believe every word of what they say, no matter how batshit crazy and full of shit it is.

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20-11-2013, 09:54 PM
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(20-11-2013 02:15 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Logisch,

People in the porn industry are dying, faster than others.

You are a fucking liar.

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