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21-11-2013, 09:30 AM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(20-11-2013 10:42 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(20-11-2013 12:43 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Off track again...? Sorry for that. Stay focused, people.

Porn actors have orgasms real or fake on camera--but they are not in large percentage happy people who enjoy their industry. What seems like an easy way to make money can wear a person thin and prematurely age them emotionally, etc. Where your money goes is who you support--and even clicking on porn links opens new tabs and windows so that criminal elements can attempt to over-report other paid subscribers and launder money.

Some porn actors have been horribly abused, some are runaways, some are addicts. Admittedly some are somewhat holistic people looking for money. They suffer over time. You can be a part of the problem or the solution, just as if everyone followed biblical abstinence unto marriage, STDs would all but disappear from Earth.

Ya'll make a lot of masturbation jokes at this forum. It's not the masturbation but the root lust. We've all lusted and coveted things that are inappropriate and the tenth commandment of Exodus 20 is broader than sexual lust.

Our thought lives reveal to ourselves that we're imperfect. Let's just start with "imperfect" and not "sinners" for now. Heaven is a perfect utopia, the imperfect cannot enter there. Venn diagram it, people.

Why does PJ always send us off to go do his research, and can never be seen to support his own opinions himself?

Also, alone else getting the vibe that PJ is seriously sexually repressed?


"Some" porn actors are abused, but "some" is a number from 1 to just shy of 50%. Forgive me if I do not grant you the benefit of the doubt. During the church child abuse scandals it was shown that the unabused children in Catholic schools in Ireland, were very probably in the minority. We actually have research to back that up (the Ryan Report). So how about we shut down the porn industry right after the Pope shuts down the Catholic church and it's army of pedophiles?

EK:

I promote the gospel. I know you know the RCC has not relented of saying sola scriptura and faith not works are abominations to God! We also know the Bible says elders can marry--maybe if they let the (non-gay) priests marry they'd stop abusing children in that "church".

I hope this is clear THIS time--I don't consider the RCC to be a church at all. You can raise this issue if you want to complain about theists, therefore but not Christianity.

Can we just say porn actors are victims of self-abuse, then, no pun intended? If you think they aren't abused, would you marry a porn star who has done 150 films with 300 or 400 or 1,000 men? Why or why not?
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21-11-2013, 09:32 AM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(21-11-2013 12:30 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(20-11-2013 03:22 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  I know atheists like to quote sources. I do too, when they're ironclad, since atheists just like Christians love to discredit sources!

Jesus liked to do differently, rather than to quote sources in the Pharisaical/Rabbinic tradition, He quoted scripture or gave some thought-provoking questions. In other words, always getting you to the source of God or to think.


Um your reference to fictional fairy stories is irrelevant.

Quote:Watch--we don't need sources--that you can also argue--as if you are blissfully unaware of the endless rounds of debates on college campuses as to the validity and necessity of porn.

It's no surprise that you idiots choose to take your culture war to college campuses. But the location of the debate is irrelevant, something you are too fucking arrogant and stupid to acknowledge.

Quote:Are you a feminist? Do feminists defend porn?-they don't and I don't... I'm on the side of the liberals here, my friend, not the libertarians...

I am a feminist and yes, feminists defend porn. Already established.

Quote:Let's just use logic.
You wouldn't know logic if it bent you over and fucked you in the ass with a cactus wrapped in barbed wire and soaked in habanero sauce.


Quote:I'll ask you some questions and you can formulate your own opinion. I want us to find agreement and harmony here.

Leading questions are bullshit.

Quote:Do porn actors and participants strike you as healthy, holistic, confident people?

Yes, the ones I have met do, and are. End of fucking strawdog argument.

Quote:Do you think after several days of filming gratuitous sex with multiple partners-- even strangers they don't know until filming begins--porn actors go home to happy marriages and other stable love relationships?

You would be surprised. Your ignorant prejudice is showing.


Quote:Will their future children have healthy mores and safe boundaries mentally and emotionally...

Of course. It's called honesty. You, the son of a bitch who fearfully beats your offspring with a plastic hose, wouldn't know anything about being HONEST with your children if it fucked you in the ass.

Quote: if they grow old enough to see their parents' past performances on camera?

A helluva lot better than being beaten into submission with a plastic hose.


Quote:If I offered you $50,000 to do porn for one year, say, 35 films, would you do so? Why or why not?

Do you really see this question as relevant? Rolleyes


Quote:Do you think men and women who watch porn frequently are more or less likely to respect other men and women in sexual contexts?
Why or why not?

Beg the Question much? At least you admitted that women enjoy watching porn too. Think about it. Or not.



Quote:Porn is called "adult entertainment". Do you think there are more or less consequences for ten- and twelve-year-olds who watch porn then there are for seeing an R-rated movie without parental guidance? Why is that?

Non Sequitur much?

In your rush to demonize unbelievers, you seem to forget the incest and pedophilia of the so-called "heroes" in your own fairy-tale book Case in point: Lot and his two daughters having a nice little incestuous fuck-a-thon after your Gawd conveniently cleared his wife out of the picture for the horrendous crime of looking over her shoulder at the carnage of his (supposed) handiwork.


Quote:In your own love life, do you sometimes have trouble focusing on your partner?

Nope, never. Your questions are approaching desperation.

Quote: If during sex, do you fantasize about porn you've seen?

Fantasy is a healthy and intrinsic part of sexuality. Have YOU EVER fantasized about ANYTHING while having sex with your partner? If you claim you haven't, I am calling you a fucking liar.

It may shock the shit out of your sorry naive ass, but real people -- couples who are in love, for example -- do enjoy the experience of seeing others enjoy the beautiful experience of human sexuality. It's a natural part of the human experience, and if you don't fucking like it, you are more than welcome to punch out of the human experience. I'll be happy to loan you the shotgun to stick in your mouth. As long as I get it back....

Quote:Are you aware of typical porn addiction testimonies that say harder and harder pornography was needed to climax and receive pleasure?

I am aware of all of the typical XTARD bullshit propaganda. <yawn>


Quote:Why do you think that is?

Mostly sorry-ass attention-seeking.


Quote:Others say masturbation and fantasy even became preferred over sex with an adult partner. Is that a healthy lifestyle?

Strawman much?

Quote:If we need not feel guilt about lust,

Beg the Question much?

Quote:...would you be comfortable sharing that you masturbate to porn on nationwide TV?
....stupid fucking question much?

Quote:Why or why not? Do you think all sexual guilt is rooted in religion or in culture or could there be a different source
Sexual guilt is rooted in your batshit crazy religion. Fucking deal with it.

Are you a Poe? Because I'm the favorite troll around here. But I'm a born again Christian and not a Poe. If I dreamed up an ideal atheist to show bitterness and unreasoning anger, you be first draft. You must be a Poe.
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21-11-2013, 09:33 AM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(21-11-2013 08:49 AM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(20-11-2013 12:43 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Off track again...? Sorry for that. Stay focused, people.

Porn actors have orgasms real or fake on camera--but they are not in large percentage happy people who enjoy their industry. What seems like an easy way to make money can wear a person thin and prematurely age them emotionally, etc. Where your money goes is who you support--and even clicking on porn links opens new tabs and windows so that criminal elements can attempt to over-report other paid subscribers and launder money.

Some porn actors have been horribly abused, some are runaways, some are addicts. Admittedly some are somewhat holistic people looking for money. They suffer over time. You can be a part of the problem or the solution, just as if everyone followed biblical abstinence unto marriage, STDs would all but disappear from Earth.

Ya'll make a lot of masturbation jokes at this forum. It's not the masturbation but the root lust. We've all lusted and coveted things that are inappropriate and the tenth commandment of Exodus 20 is broader than sexual lust.

Our thought lives reveal to ourselves that we're imperfect. Let's just start with "imperfect" and not "sinners" for now. Heaven is a perfect utopia, the imperfect cannot enter there. Venn diagram it, people.

Awesome that you know so much about porn and masturbation. Well done you.
LOL

good luck with that

Do you have serious input for this chat or do you just wish to jerk me around? Have you come to any logical conclusions? Are you having a blast with this?
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21-11-2013, 09:36 AM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(21-11-2013 09:32 AM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  
(21-11-2013 12:30 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Um your reference to fictional fairy stories is irrelevant.


It's no surprise that you idiots choose to take your culture war to college campuses. But the location of the debate is irrelevant, something you are too fucking arrogant and stupid to acknowledge.


I am a feminist and yes, feminists defend porn. Already established.

You wouldn't know logic if it bent you over and fucked you in the ass with a cactus wrapped in barbed wire and soaked in habanero sauce.



Leading questions are bullshit.


Yes, the ones I have met do, and are. End of fucking strawdog argument.


You would be surprised. Your ignorant prejudice is showing.



Of course. It's called honesty. You, the son of a bitch who fearfully beats your offspring with a plastic hose, wouldn't know anything about being HONEST with your children if it fucked you in the ass.


A helluva lot better than being beaten into submission with a plastic hose.



Do you really see this question as relevant? Rolleyes



Beg the Question much? At least you admitted that women enjoy watching porn too. Think about it. Or not.




Non Sequitur much?

In your rush to demonize unbelievers, you seem to forget the incest and pedophilia of the so-called "heroes" in your own fairy-tale book Case in point: Lot and his two daughters having a nice little incestuous fuck-a-thon after your Gawd conveniently cleared his wife out of the picture for the horrendous crime of looking over her shoulder at the carnage of his (supposed) handiwork.



Nope, never. Your questions are approaching desperation.


Fantasy is a healthy and intrinsic part of sexuality. Have YOU EVER fantasized about ANYTHING while having sex with your partner? If you claim you haven't, I am calling you a fucking liar.

It may shock the shit out of your sorry naive ass, but real people -- couples who are in love, for example -- do enjoy the experience of seeing others enjoy the beautiful experience of human sexuality. It's a natural part of the human experience, and if you don't fucking like it, you are more than welcome to punch out of the human experience. I'll be happy to loan you the shotgun to stick in your mouth. As long as I get it back....


I am aware of all of the typical XTARD bullshit propaganda. <yawn>



Mostly sorry-ass attention-seeking.



Strawman much?


Beg the Question much?

....stupid fucking question much?

Sexual guilt is rooted in your batshit crazy religion. Fucking deal with it.

Are you a Poe? Because I'm the favorite troll around here. But I'm a born again Christian and not a Poe. If I dreamed up an ideal atheist to show bitterness and unreasoning anger, you be first draft. You must be a Poe.

*raises hand* I can answer that. Taq is not a Poe. I've known him for years. It's funny that you openly admit to being a Troll. Gotta say that's the very first time I've read someone admitting to being a Troll. LMAO

Born again eh? Just didn't get it right the first time? That shit always confuses me to no end. But...........hey bully for you for your BornAgainNess if that's what floats your boat.

See............for me.........IMHO......... if being born again helps you get up in the morning and be a good person all day - that's fine by me. I don't live in your skin so I couldn't care less what trips your trigger. Buuut...........
I'm still searching through this thread of you getting up in the morning and being a good person all day. So far I just don't see it.
Your moral superiority is showing and it's ugly. Pull up your pants, please.

When I want your opinion I'll read your entrails.
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21-11-2013, 09:38 AM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(21-11-2013 09:36 AM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(21-11-2013 09:32 AM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Are you a Poe? Because I'm the favorite troll around here. But I'm a born again Christian and not a Poe. If I dreamed up an ideal atheist to show bitterness and unreasoning anger, you be first draft. You must be a Poe.

*raises hand* I can answer that. Taq is not a Poe. I've known him for years. It's funny that you openly admit to being a Troll. Gotta say that's the very first time I've read someone admitting to being a Troll. LMAO

Born again eh? Just didn't get it right the first time? That shit always confuses me to no end. But...........hey bully for you for your BornAgainNess if that's what floats your boat.

See............for me.........IMHO......... if being born again helps you get up in the morning and be a good person all day - that's fine by me. I don't live in your skin so I couldn't care less what trips your trigger. Buuut...........
I'm still searching through this thread of you getting up in the morning and being a good person all day. So far I just don't see it.
Your moral superiority is showing and it's ugly. Pull up your pants, please.

Well, cream does rise to the top. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with this. Pay attention, because the penalties are stiff.
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21-11-2013, 09:39 AM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(21-11-2013 09:33 AM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  
(21-11-2013 08:49 AM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  Awesome that you know so much about porn and masturbation. Well done you.
LOL

good luck with that

Do you have serious input for this chat or do you just wish to jerk me around? Have you come to any logical conclusions? Are you having a blast with this?

I'm sorry - do you have more right to be here than me? If so.........please explain.

When I want your opinion I'll read your entrails.
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21-11-2013, 09:39 AM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(21-11-2013 09:38 AM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  
(21-11-2013 09:36 AM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  *raises hand* I can answer that. Taq is not a Poe. I've known him for years. It's funny that you openly admit to being a Troll. Gotta say that's the very first time I've read someone admitting to being a Troll. LMAO

Born again eh? Just didn't get it right the first time? That shit always confuses me to no end. But...........hey bully for you for your BornAgainNess if that's what floats your boat.

See............for me.........IMHO......... if being born again helps you get up in the morning and be a good person all day - that's fine by me. I don't live in your skin so I couldn't care less what trips your trigger. Buuut...........
I'm still searching through this thread of you getting up in the morning and being a good person all day. So far I just don't see it.
Your moral superiority is showing and it's ugly. Pull up your pants, please.

Well, cream does rise to the top. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with this. Pay attention, because the penalties are stiff.


What are the penalties?

When I want your opinion I'll read your entrails.
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21-11-2013, 09:41 AM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(21-11-2013 09:36 AM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  I've known him for years.

Taq is a guy? Oops. Blush

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21-11-2013, 10:05 AM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(21-11-2013 09:39 AM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(21-11-2013 09:38 AM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Well, cream does rise to the top. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with this. Pay attention, because the penalties are stiff.


What are the penalties?

Look I don't want you to get screwed. You have to feel what is right. You have to see that opening and have it filled.
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21-11-2013, 10:06 AM
RE: Checkmate, Atheists!
(21-11-2013 09:33 AM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Do you have serious input for this chat or do you just wish to jerk me around?

(21-11-2013 09:38 AM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Well, cream does rise to the top. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with this. Pay attention, because the penalties are stiff.

I'm not going to mock your level of sexual maturity PJ, mainly because your sexual obsession is flagrant, pubescent, and nearly disturbing (if it wasn't so sad). The idea that you seem to think that there is some joke that others just don't get kind of speaks volumes of your disconnect with the subject itself.

Probably a good idea to check with a mental health professional about that. Mention your faith - no doubt there's a protocol in place for the religious. Shy


(21-11-2013 10:05 AM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  Look I don't want you to get screwed. You have to feel what is right. You have to see that opening and have it filled.

Uh huh. Figured you would get another in before I posted. No

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