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18-04-2014, 03:13 PM
RE: Christ is coming
(18-04-2014 09:12 AM)Impulse Wrote:  So we were standing behind the starting line waiting for the start signal when I saw this airplane fly overhead with a large banner that read "Be Prepared Christ Is Coming".

Sounds more ominous than anything. Like an early warning system or something. I can't help but picture a giant, godzilla-sized Jesus coming lumbering over the hillside, stepping cars and knocking over water towers.

"The truth must dazzle gradually / or every man be blind." Emily Dickinson
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18-04-2014, 04:23 PM
RE: Christ is coming
Expecting the followers of a death cult not to embrace death, is illogical.


(18-04-2014 11:46 AM)WindyCityJazz Wrote:  
(18-04-2014 11:00 AM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  WHEN?!?! When the fuck is he coming already?!

I find this stuff so annoying! It's one thing when Christians are just focused on their religion, or actually trying to be good people, and hopefully actually succeeding at being good people, instead of selfrighteous assholes. But when they start going into all the "Christ returning" bullshit I just think, "What the fuck are you talking about? How can you even say that? It's been literally thousands of years. What you are saying is meaningless!"

When I was a kid, I knew Jesus coming back was a part of the story narrative, but I didn't think people really believed that as an actual thing.

I always thought the average Christian didn't really think about that part of the story. Didn't really question it, as in they didn’t decide that it was not true, but inside really didn't have a view of their religion with that part in it as an actual thing they really thought would happen. I felt like, and still feel like, most actual people who claim they are Christians don't really think there is an end where Jesus comes back and does stuff, or fucks up the world. I think most average Christians just think when they die they go straight “up” to heaven. The Earth keeps going and they sit in heaven watching it and doing heavenly things. And as people more people are born and die they keep going to heaven (or hell) but there's not an end...it's just keeps going on. There’s not an end game. It’s just that when some people die, they go here, when others die, they go there…

At least that's my impression of the average Christian, and they are not as vocal as these nuts flying planes with banners that say “Jesus is coming back”.

What are your thoughts? Do you think most of them actually are the way I describe, or do you think more of them actually think there is an actual end with Jesus actually coming back and doing "magic" to the earth?

I hear the "end times" shit a lot. They really play it up after some natural disaster has happened. You get your asshole preachers like Pat Robertson going "See! That's God's wrath! It's a sign that the end is near!" Never mind the fact that they are called "natural" disasters for a reason. There's no way that it's just nature, it's obviously God!

I get so incredibly disgusted with that crap, and it's one of the big reasons why I became an atheist. How could somebody look at something like the Indonesian tsunami and actually use it to comfort themselves that it's proof that their god is punishing others that don't share their beliefs. I wish there was a way to show them video footage of every single child that drowned and make them watch every one of them. Just so that they could get an actual idea of what they are condoning and how shameful it is to say shit like that.

Here is the big difference between those loving Christians and atheists when a natural disaster like a hurricane, earthquake, or tsunami happens:

Christians use it as an opportunity to preach their shit about it being the wrath of their god, and why their religion is right, and taking comfort in the idea that their god did that. To them it's a sign of validity of their religion. They don't see the horrific shit that atheists see. They see opportunity.

Atheists think about what a tragic event it is, and how horrific it must be for the families of the people who were killed.

I have never, ever come across an atheist who used some horrific natural disaster as an opportunity to try to convert people to atheism. No atheist has ever said "See! If those people were atheists that tsunami never would have happened! They are being punished because they aren't atheists!"

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18-04-2014, 11:20 PM
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Even as a Christian when I sorta believed it could be real I hoped he wouldn't come back before I died because I didn't want to get cheated out of this life when the next one sounded so boring.
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18-04-2014, 11:37 PM
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(18-04-2014 11:20 PM)freetoreason Wrote:  Even as a Christian when I sorta believed it could be real I hoped he wouldn't come back before I died because I didn't want to get cheated out of this life when the next one sounded so boring.

Yeah but it's silly. Why waste your real life praying and being good for an afterlife that probably doesn't even exist when you can be free and enjoy your real life now and worry about death when it comes.

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19-04-2014, 01:05 AM (This post was last modified: 19-04-2014 01:11 AM by Charis.)
RE: Christ is coming
Fundy background speaking:

From my experience, of those who do believe the Bible, most of them do believe Jesus is actually coming back. Even if they're not vocal in these beliefs. Remember, "Left Behind" was a hit with more than just the fundies. "End Times" stuff is rather popular preaching, because it's relatively intense.

A person's viewpoint on End Tiimes will depend on several factors, a few of which are:

1. His actual belief in/trust of the Bible as true, whether literally or figuratively/allegorically
2. Exactly which parts he takes as literal/figurative
3. Which school of thought he subscribes to as far as "eschatology." Meaning, "Pre-Trib," "Post-Trib," "Mid-Trib," "Pre-Wrath," "Historicist." Granted, if he subscribes to ANY of these, except Historicist, he very likely believes it's a "thing."

Of those who aren't sure about where they stand on the Bible itself but generally hold to a Christian faith and worldview, it's kinda guesswork.
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19-04-2014, 04:01 AM
RE: Christ is coming
(18-04-2014 11:03 AM)KidCharlemagne1962 Wrote:  
(18-04-2014 10:27 AM)DLJ Wrote:  On whom ... as in: on whom will christ upload his second coming?

Blink

If, indeed, he's coming back, will he pick up a pizza for me? Pepperoni, sausage and onion please. Drinking Beverage
I'd rather not have him touch my food, thanks.
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19-04-2014, 04:27 AM
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(18-04-2014 11:25 AM)Minimalist Wrote:  He's been jerking off for 2,000 years. It's about time he came.

Well that would explain the blood rain and not just jiz.

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19-04-2014, 08:32 AM
RE: Christ is coming
(18-04-2014 09:12 AM)Impulse Wrote:  Last night I ran in a 5K race. This event is held annually for local businesses to bring their employees and have fun. There were about 15,000 people in the race. So we were standing behind the starting line waiting for the start signal when I saw this airplane fly overhead with a large banner that read "Be Prepared Christ Is Coming".

I just rolled my eyes. What do those Christians think they are accomplishing with that? I mean, knocking on doors is one thing. At least they could hope for some conversation that might sway someone's opinion, but with a fly over one-sentence sign like that, do they honestly believe even one person below them who doesn't already believe is going to "get the message"? What's actually more likely is some on-the-fence people may find it intruding on their fun event and will in some small way feel annoyed with religion. What stupidity and a waste of money too. I guess they can just take up another collection to make up for it. Dodgy

There is a guy in my town who drives an SUV with a 3' plastic cross bungee cord strapped to the vehicle's roof. In a sick and twisted way, I kinda hope he gets into an accident and that thing launches like a missile off the roof and does some intense physical damage to somone's else's personal property (NOT a person) just so he can get sued when his insurance company goes "oh FUCK no, we're not paying that claim".

There's another guy who lives a few subdivisions away from me who, during election years, paints "God belongs in MY government on the rear windshield of his Expidition.

I've seen a guy driving around town occasionally in a Crown Vic holding a sign out his open window that says "Jesus loves you!". While he drives. In all weather. That's devotion, man.

I'm really hoping that when he retires, my husband gets an awesome job offer up north in one of the less god-based states. I'd vote for moving to another country, but he won't go for that. Weeping
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19-04-2014, 01:03 PM
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Not on me he ain't...
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