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17-12-2016, 06:40 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
(17-12-2016 04:03 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  HIV/AIDS was not a plague sent by God but it did go through and kill many gays. The suicide rate is high. Lots of emotional problems. The facts are well known.

Maybe the suicide rates and emotional problems are so high because of prejudice, hatred and harassment from ignorant, religious bigots. Many of which, DO say that AIDS was sent by god.

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17-12-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
(17-12-2016 04:11 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  Big Bang Theory. What went bang?

Read a science book. Preferably one not written 2000 years ago.

(17-12-2016 04:11 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  The problem with meeting your "evidence for God" request is that you will require a "natural" explanation. Like the magician Amazing Randi will never pay-off because his criteria is "natural." Natural means cannot explain-prove supernatural.

Because the supernatural doesn't exist. Randi has his system set up so that both sides agree on the criteria and method of testing.

Ever notice that the number of miracles has decreased as our science knowledge has increased?

Almost as if it was all bullshit...

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17-12-2016, 06:50 PM
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(17-12-2016 06:17 PM)unfogged Wrote:  You believe you are right. The Mormons believe that they are right. The Jews believe that they are right. Ditto Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc... how do we determine who, if anybody, actually is right? Every group has books and traditions and eyewitness reports and they all conflict.

It makes far more sense to conclude that they are all the result of uneasy humans trying to explain a complicated, inexplicable, and often terrifying world.

We're all right because the end result is that we all live good lives in civilized societies.
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17-12-2016, 06:56 PM
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(17-12-2016 04:17 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  Did not go through his other books. The one I read was not scholarly so why bother. The Jesus Seminar was a joke.

So you are more knowledgeable than eminent bible scholars.

This is not just Erhman. He is simply the most prominent. This is the consensus.

The scholars translated the bible correctly and know exactly what they are talking about, until they disagree with your interpretation. Or until they bring up something that you can't handle.

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17-12-2016, 07:03 PM
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(17-12-2016 04:33 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  Sin causes the disease etc. When sin entered the world.

What sin do you think this child committed:

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Nice of your god to take it out on the children.


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17-12-2016, 07:25 PM
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Bzltyr was so engaged with us and then BLAM. He's gone. Was it something we said?
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17-12-2016, 07:28 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
(17-12-2016 07:03 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  
(17-12-2016 04:33 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  Sin causes the disease etc. When sin entered the world.

Nice of your god to take it out on the children.

Again.

Again.

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17-12-2016, 07:28 PM
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(17-12-2016 07:25 PM)Aliza Wrote:  Bzltyr was so engaged with us and then BLAM. He's gone. Was it something we said?

Maybe he finally realized he wasn't converting anyone. It happens. Evil_monster

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17-12-2016, 07:34 PM
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(17-12-2016 07:25 PM)Aliza Wrote:  Bzltyr was so engaged with us and then BLAM. He's gone. Was it something we said?

Maybe he finally took our advice and read your Rep. Big Grin

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17-12-2016, 07:35 PM
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