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20-12-2016, 07:43 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
Bzltyr Wrote:  
This kind of crap just highlights how unreasonable you are and how badly you want me to look foolish.

Posters wrote: I don't have to do anything to make you look foolish. You are doing a superb job on your own.


If you don't think I am self-aware enough to know I was setting myself up with this one you are wrong.
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20-12-2016, 07:43 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
Wow! 51 pages wasted on this knucklehead?!
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20-12-2016, 07:45 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
So Aliza where is the Messiah?
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20-12-2016, 07:46 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
(20-12-2016 07:34 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(20-12-2016 05:06 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  "Any universe that expands on average throughout its history must have a beginning where a causal agent outside space and time creates space time matter and energy.

space-time theorem of Borde, Guth, and Vilenkin

Exactly how has anybody tested this conjecture? It "must"? There are numerous conjectures including oscillating universes and multiverses as well as simply a universe from nothing. Postulating a "causal agent outside space and time" has got to be one of the biggest violations of Occam's Razor ever devised. We have zero evidence for "outside space and time", let alone any agent, especially if that agent is intelligent.

Only somebody trying to backfill a pre-existing belief could accept a statement like that.

I suggest you research who the authors were.
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20-12-2016, 07:47 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
(20-12-2016 07:43 PM)pablo Wrote:  Wow! 51 pages wasted on this knucklehead?!

Judging by your avatar, it might be monkey see monkey do.
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20-12-2016, 07:51 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
(20-12-2016 05:00 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  How about predictive value of Gen chapter 1.

The Bible says the plants came first.
So does the fossil record.

The bible also says that the sun was created on the fourth day.
The bible says that plants were created on the third day. Photosynthesis?

A day is defined as:
Quote:The period of time during which the Earth completes one rotation with respect to the Sun is called a solar day.

Then how the fuck do you measure days before the sun was created?

Help for the living. Hope for the dead. ~ R.G. Ingersoll

Freedom offers opportunity. Opportunity confers responsibility. Responsibility to use the freedom we enjoy wisely, honestly and humanely. ~ Noam Chomsky
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20-12-2016, 07:53 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
(20-12-2016 07:42 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  
(20-12-2016 06:52 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  I don't know, Deesse23, you seem upset. You should go lay down.

Watcha expect? Some people get offended when they are lied to repeatedly.

The threats don't help either.

I am going to use Deesse23 style.

I am not lying.

I say something I believe and you disagree does not constitute lying. I may be mistaken but that is also not lying.

Stop being a butthead, Deesse23.
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20-12-2016, 07:54 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
(20-12-2016 07:45 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  So Aliza where is the Messiah?

We haven't merited it yet. We've got another 223 years to hit the ball before G-d walks us to first base.
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20-12-2016, 07:54 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
(20-12-2016 07:42 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  
(20-12-2016 06:52 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  I don't know, Deesse23, you seem upset. You should go lay down.

Watcha expect? Some people get offended when they are lied to repeatedly.

The threats don't help either.

What threat?
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20-12-2016, 08:01 PM
RE: Christian Doctrine
(20-12-2016 07:54 PM)Bzltyr Wrote:  
(20-12-2016 07:42 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Watcha expect? Some people get offended when they are lied to repeatedly.

The threats don't help either.

What threat?

(17-12-2016 10:24 AM)Bzltyr Wrote:  
(16-12-2016 08:21 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  I reject that doctrine. Some guy claims he's going to die for my sins? Whether I want him to or not? I'm man enough to stand up for my own actions good or bad. If I'm not good enough for something on my own, I have enough self respect to reject someone else paying the debt for me.

You are not capable of paying the bill. You rejecting it is why you will be sent to Hell.

You forget quickly it seems.

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