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29-03-2010, 11:50 PM
Christian Militia or Cult?
Well, it looks like the religious right extremists are on the rise again. Over the weekend the FBI had to move in on a Christian militia called 'The Hutaree'. This radical cult-like group had set in motion a plan to kill policemen in hopes that they could have an even larger slaughter when the funerals of the fallen would've taken place.

In Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana the FBI rose to the challenge and acted on information that this particular group was in the late stages of this diabolical scheme. Agents conducted raids on the homes of these extremists with the hopes of uncovering new evidence about future plots as well as information concerning other related groups.

This may mark the beginning of a new radical right wing uprising that has been building since Barack Obama was elected president. Wether they planned to actually go through with this plot is unclear at this point, but you can bet this will create a dangerous backlash in the radical Christian movement.

Wether we like it or not, our own countrymen are taking on the persona of judge, jury, and executioner much like has been witnessed in extremist run Muslim nations. The conspiracy theorists are stocking up on weapons of mass homicide (as they've done for years) and are closer now to setting off a firestorm of terrorist activity. Don't think it can't happen here--this is what we have to look forward to as oil prices goes up, unemployment remains high, and people become more disillusioned with their government.

Karen Armstrong wrote this in the last two paragraphs of her book 'The Battle For God':

"It is difficult to chart the activities and ideals of Christian Identity, which is not a monolithic movement but a constellation of affiliated organizations. Their numbers are small; there are probably no more than 100,000 members and could be as few as 50,ooo. But as a trend Christian Identity is worrying. Like fundamentalists, they have retreated from the world in contempt and fear, and plan to take it over. Like the most extreme types of fundamentalists, members see conspiracy everywhere and cultivate a theology of rage and resentment. But they have outdone the fundamentalists in their overtly fascist ideology, their pure hatred of the United States government, and the extremity of their withdrawal from modern life. No longer concerned with problems of doctrine and biblical inerrancy, the Identity groups want to carve out for themselves a separate Aryan state in America. Christian Identity has developed an ideology of alienation and terror unparalleled in American history. Like Reconstructionism, this loose confederation of Identity communities is a small but disturbing indication of the way religion could be used to articulate helplessness, disappointment, and discontent in the future. The secularist establishment and mainstream denominations may feel that the fundamentalists threat is receding in the United States, but as far as some Christians are concerned the war is still on, the federal government must be destroyed, and the conflict will certainly continue into the twenty-first Christian century.

Religion did not disappear after all, and in some circles it has become more militant than ever. In all three of the monotheist faiths, fundamentalists have reacted angrily to attempts to privatize or to suppress religion, and have, as they believe, rescued it from oblivion. It has been distorted; this represents a defeat for religion. But fundamentalism is now part of the modern world. It represents a widespread disappointment, alienation, anxiety, and rage that no government can safely ignore. So far, efforts to deal with fundamentalism have not been very successful; what lessons can we learn from the past that will help us to deal more creatively in the future with the fears that fundamentalism enshrines?"
---The End

Pretty ominous words from an ex-nun. So far her analysis is right on target and has proven to be an enlightened view of the continuing struggle that the fight for religious domination seems to be headed.
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30-03-2010, 05:07 AM
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I worry where this will all take us. I became an Atheist for various reasons, although I have to admit one of the strongest reasons was that I found the doctrine illogical and irrational. I have always had the worry about fundamentalists in the back of my head, with the thought "I don't have anything PERSONALLY to worry about".

But this is where I'm wrong.

If a fight were to ensue tomorrow, whether it be Christian v. Muslim, or any fundamentalist against any secular person, I'd have to get involved. For the sake of my children. Necessity dictates it and, if it were to come down to saving humanity or saving my kids, my children come first, hands down.

I hope that these types of groups 'make a lot of noise' but ultimately fizzle out without too much damage (e.g. physical). It is groups like these that you hope their humanity would dictate their actions and not anything else. Again, I said 'hope'...I expect that the people who get involved in these types of groups are hopelessly puppeted by the central group belief.

Let's do what we can (legally) to stop them before they can become something unstoppable.
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30-03-2010, 11:30 AM
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Here's the Yahoo! News coverage of the story, and here's their website.

Their doctrine:


The Doctrine of the Hutaree is based on faith and most of all the testimony of Jesus. Hebrews 11:1, ‘Faith is the substance of things hoped for, The Evidence of things not yet seen.’

Jesus spoke of the ten virgins in Matthew 25: 1-12. The wise ones took enough oil to last the whole night, just in case the bridegroom was late. The foolish ones took not enough oil to last the whole night and figured that the bridegroom would arrive earlier than he did.

These bridegrooms represent the Christian church of today. The oil, just as Jesus explained, represented faith. If you read the story right, you find out that the people with enough faith to last as long as it might take are the wise ones. They know and believe in the testimony of Christ, even through the darkest and most doubtful of times. This day is soon.

The foolish ones are the ones who expect Christ to arrive too soon. They have brought for themselves only enough oil to last for a short time, having not enough faith to last through the darkest hours. When the time comes for those without enough faith, they will fall to the Anti-Christ’s doctrine. And it will make perfect sense to the whole world; even the elect.

We all as Christians should stand firm in Christ and believe in him until our uttermost end. The testimony must by no means pass away and we must spread the word believing in Christ’s words, even during the end times.

Now when that hour Christ arrives the foolish ones would have already left their waiting mark, their place in Christ. Then when he comes over, trumpets blowing, and clouds flowing, the wise ones will come to him in the clouds and into heaven. The foolish will then remember what they were ‘supposed to do’ and cry out loud to God and knock on heaven’s door. But read and you’ll find that it says that when the door is shut no one enters afterwards. They will knock and he will say, “Away with you, for I know you not.

I Peter 5:11, ‘And this is the Testimony, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.’

Believe in this word and spread it to all you can. Stand, stay and pray for the defense of the word. For we live by faith and cannot see nor understand what we believe, entirely, but nevertheless the reward is worth it in the end.


And check out their list of trusted news sources.

And here's their "About Us" section:

Quote:HUTAREE; Christian Warrior

As christians we all are a part of the Souls of the Body of Christ, the one true church of Christ. Not any specific man made building or any man controlled organization. This is the belief of the Hutaree soldier, as should the belief of all followers in Christ be.

We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. All christians must know this and prepare, just as Christ commanded. Luke 22:35-37, And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?” So they said, “Nothing.” 36, Then he said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37, “For I say to you that this which is written must be accomplished in me: ‘And He was numbered with transgressors,’ For the things concerning Me have an end.” This clearly states the reason for the training and preparation of the Hutaree.

Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment. The only thing on earth to save the testimony and those who follow it, are the members of the testimony, til the return of Christ in the clouds. We, the Hutaree, are prepared to defend all those who belong to Christ and save those who aren’t. We will still spread the word, and fight to keep it, up to the time of the great coming.

Being Hutaree is to stay the Testimony of Christ alive, and follow a motto, John15:13, “Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.” We are hoping that through this website we can reach out to those who have not the word of God and those who are lost in there ideas of Christ. Many of the things Christ said would happen have happened and some things are still in the works of happening.

We all must know that we all carry a cross and a soldiers cross is just as heavy as any other. Just as Jesus did we must also carry our cross to our destination our life abounds us to. All people are givin a destination by God’s will and have to continue there walk to there own golgotha. But many people, even christians don’t agree with the things we do but all we have to say is, we will not argue over the Bible, read it for what it is. We believe only what the Bible says and not on only philosophy, as many christians of this day do. Christ is our king of kings and top general of all things, for we are not of this world but we live in it.

The Hutaree will one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield if so God wills it. We will reach out to those who are yet blind in the last days of the kingdoms of men and bring them to life in Christ. Daniel 11:32-35, “Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery; but the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits. 33, “And those of the people who understand shall instruct many; yet for many days they shall fall by sword and flame, by captivity and plundering. 34, “Now when they fall, they shall be aided with a little help; but many shall join them by intrigue. 35 “And some of those of understanding shall fall, to refine them, purify them, and make them white, until the time of the end; because it is still for the appointed time.”

You can find the news we find in some of the places we have in the information sources section. Also you can get gear from some of the choice places we have on gear links. Thanks for coming to and please come again. Oh and don’t forget that you can write us through the contact us link on the Hutaree homepage. Once again thanks for visiting and may Christ bless you widely.

Essentially, the Hutaree is a group of armed zealots who believe that they can bring about Tribulation and the Rapture through creating conflict. A dangerous group of people. They should be shut down - they're terrorists, nothing more.

Oh, and here's a link to their forum, for those who aren't afraid of losing their sanity.

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30-03-2010, 12:08 PM
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I said it before, I'll say it again...

These people need to be stopped!
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01-04-2010, 12:14 AM
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From today's news:

All learning is quite useless if you haven't learned to question what you learn.
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03-04-2010, 10:59 AM
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this one's kinda amusing: so i posted on my facebook "Christian Militia, huh?" and my girlfriend's insanely religious older brother started spewing off at the mouth about "just because someone CALLS themselves Christian doesnt mean they really ARE. Do they follow the Teachings of Christ? Not even close."

Ok dude...but i'll just say this - how many people did "jesus christ" eradicate, again? or are we just turning the other way on all that and only paying attention to the hippy vibe? gotta love selective faith.
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