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16-08-2014, 10:00 AM
Christian Propaganda
Here you go. I thought you guys would love this little jpeg I found on Facebook. All three columns are a god damn joke. This is filthy christian propaganda. Any Christard here want to defend this horse shit?


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...one of my biggest complaints with this bit of christian horse shit is that the middle column should really be labeled: 'The Church Then' ...since science had nothing to do with those ideas.
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18-08-2014, 08:22 AM
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I've been talking to a Jehovah's Witness about several of these, recently. It's really just one way of interpretation. Many of those above-mentioned verses are quite vague, and can be read many ways. Similarly, the verse that says the earth is a sphere is super dishonest. There was no separate word for sphere and circle in the original language, so who knows what was said? It could be just as likely that they thought the earth was a disk. All that aside, there are two big problems with this:

1) Other religions make similar claims. Not that long ago, I saw a Muslim busting out verses of the Koran to show that it supports evolution. Does that make Islam true?

2) What about the actual useful information that YHWH didn't see fit to share with us? So, he gives us relatively useless information (doubtful) about astronomy several thousand years before we invent space travel, yet leaves us to discover the germ theory of disease while people continue getting sick and dying for thousands of years. Clear cut case of counting your hits and ignoring your misses. Nothing to see here.
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18-08-2014, 08:27 AM
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(18-08-2014 08:22 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  1) Other religions make similar claims. Not that long ago, I saw a Muslim busting out verses of the Koran to show that it supports evolution. Does that make Islam true?
Tee hee. Wonder how that squares with the Islamic creationist crowd Rolleyes

Quote:2) What about the actual useful information that YHWH didn't see fit to share with us? So, he gives us relatively useless information (doubtful) about astronomy several thousand years before we invent space travel, yet leaves us to discover the germ theory of disease while people continue getting sick and dying for thousands of years. Clear cut case of counting your hits and ignoring your misses. Nothing to see here.
I guess we should start going to the pastor and asking him what to sacrifice when we get flu?

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18-08-2014, 08:32 AM
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(18-08-2014 08:27 AM)morondog Wrote:  
Quote:2) What about the actual useful information that YHWH didn't see fit to share with us? So, he gives us relatively useless information (doubtful) about astronomy several thousand years before we invent space travel, yet leaves us to discover the germ theory of disease while people continue getting sick and dying for thousands of years. Clear cut case of counting your hits and ignoring your misses. Nothing to see here.
I guess we should start going to the pastor and asking him what to sacrifice when we get flu?

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18-08-2014, 08:33 AM
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Sadly, thousands of people will take this as the gospel. So to speak.
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18-08-2014, 08:46 AM
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(18-08-2014 08:27 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(18-08-2014 08:22 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  1) Other religions make similar claims. Not that long ago, I saw a Muslim busting out verses of the Koran to show that it supports evolution. Does that make Islam true?
Tee hee. Wonder how that squares with the Islamic creationist crowd Rolleyes

My understanding is actually that non-fundie Muslims are much more likely to accept evolution than (American) non-fundie Christians. I don't know if this is because of those Koran verses, or not. American Christians are kind of goofy, and even the non-fundies tend to have some oddly fundamentalist leanings.
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18-08-2014, 08:56 AM
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Even if we give Christianity and Islam the credit for these claims (which are laughable) it would mean that they would have to accept other parts of scripture such as talking ants in the Quran 27:18-19 or the whole of Genesis (which some do anyway lol). Medhi Hasan actually believes Muhammad flew on a winged horse.

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18-08-2014, 09:18 AM
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(18-08-2014 08:27 AM)morondog Wrote:  I guess we should start going to the pastor and asking him what to sacrifice when we get flu?

Well if you have a boil then you're in luck. Leviticus 13 is devoted to instructions allowing the priest to figure out if someone is clean or unclean.

Not only that but if they are unclean the priest knows exactly what to do because of the instructions in Leviticus 14!

Quote:The Lord said to Moses, 2 “These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease,[a] 4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop be brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields.

8 “The person to be cleansed must wash their clothes, shave off all their hair and bathe with water; then they will be ceremonially clean. After this they may come into the camp, but they must stay outside their tent for seven days. 9 On the seventh day they must shave off all their hair; they must shave their head, their beard, their eyebrows and the rest of their hair. They must wash their clothes and bathe themselves with water, and they will be clean.

10 “On the eighth day they must bring two male lambs and one ewe lamb a year old, each without defect, along with three-tenths of an ephah[b] of the finest flour mixed with olive oil for a grain offering, and one log[c] of oil. 11 The priest who pronounces them clean shall present both the one to be cleansed and their offerings before the Lord at the entrance to the tent of meeting.

12 “Then the priest is to take one of the male lambs and offer it as a guilt offering, along with the log of oil; he shall wave them before the Lord as a wave offering. 13 He is to slaughter the lamb in the sanctuary area where the sin offering[d] and the burnt offering are slaughtered. Like the sin offering, the guilt offering belongs to the priest; it is most holy. 14 The priest is to take some of the blood of the guilt offering and put it on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 15 The priest shall then take some of the log of oil, pour it in the palm of his own left hand, 16 dip his right forefinger into the oil in his palm, and with his finger sprinkle some of it before the Lord seven times. 17 The priest is to put some of the oil remaining in his palm on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot, on top of the blood of the guilt offering. 18 The rest of the oil in his palm the priest shall put on the head of the one to be cleansed and make atonement for them before the Lord.

19 “Then the priest is to sacrifice the sin offering and make atonement for the one to be cleansed from their uncleanness. After that, the priest shall slaughter the burnt offering 20 and offer it on the altar, together with the grain offering, and make atonement for them, and they will be clean.

21 “If, however, they are poor and cannot afford these, they must take one male lamb as a guilt offering to be waved to make atonement for them, together with a tenth of an ephah[e] of the finest flour mixed with olive oil for a grain offering, a log of oil, 22 and two doves or two young pigeons, such as they can afford, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering.

23 “On the eighth day they must bring them for their cleansing to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting, before the Lord. 24 The priest is to take the lamb for the guilt offering, together with the log of oil, and wave them before the Lord as a wave offering. 25 He shall slaughter the lamb for the guilt offering and take some of its blood and put it on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 26 The priest is to pour some of the oil into the palm of his own left hand, 27 and with his right forefinger sprinkle some of the oil from his palm seven times before the Lord. 28 Some of the oil in his palm he is to put on the same places he put the blood of the guilt offering—on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 29 The rest of the oil in his palm the priest shall put on the head of the one to be cleansed, to make atonement for them before the Lord. 30 Then he shall sacrifice the doves or the young pigeons, such as the person can afford, 31 one as a sin offering and the other as a burnt offering, together with the grain offering. In this way the priest will make atonement before the Lord on behalf of the one to be cleansed.”

32 These are the regulations for anyone who has a defiling skin disease and who cannot afford the regular offerings for their cleansing.
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18-08-2014, 06:50 PM
RE: Christian Propaganda
(16-08-2014 10:00 AM)Jagare Wrote:  Here you go. I thought you guys would love this little jpeg I found on Facebook. All three columns are a god damn joke. This is filthy christian propaganda. Any Christard here want to defend this horse shit?


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...one of my biggest complaints with this bit of christian horse shit is that the middle column should really be labeled: 'The Church Then' ...since science had nothing to do with those ideas.

I think they have the science and religion parts backwards. It's also one massive misrepresentation and lie as Religion and Science were the same thing when most of that stuff was true.


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18-08-2014, 09:11 PM
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They're obviously stretching these scriptures to mean something more than what they meant to convey.

It's ironic how they want to sound like science backs their book up - except when it doesn't, then they deride science as "secular" "evolutionists" and "Darwinists".

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