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21-02-2015, 07:42 AM
RE: Christian Women and 50 Shades books
(30-08-2014 11:19 AM)Can_of_Beans Wrote:  I also pointed out that skipping the "yucky sex parts" sounds suspiciously like the typically male claim that we read Playboy for the articles. Wink

Hahaha! ThumbsupThumbsup

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21-02-2015, 08:44 AM
RE: Christian Women and 50 Shades books
Is there a story without the sex?

Is there a story WITH the sex?
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21-02-2015, 10:33 AM
RE: Christian Women and 50 Shades books
(21-02-2015 08:44 AM)Cornelia Wrote:  Is there a story without the sex?

Is there a story WITH the sex?

I was thinking the same damn thing Thumbsup

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21-02-2015, 10:58 AM
RE: Christian Women and 50 Shades books
Not the meme I was looking for, but it'll do. Big Grin

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21-02-2015, 11:05 AM
RE: Christian Women and 50 Shades books
I know a few women from other forums who dislike the FSoG books because the writing is just so bad; amateurish, poor dialogue.

This post is a good example of why many in the BDSM community don't care for the books:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RavenLockwo...n63L59DsPj


I think this short clip is amusing, and shows some of the faults with how the author writes:



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25-02-2015, 07:35 AM
RE: Christian Women and 50 Shades books
(30-08-2014 11:19 AM)Can_of_Beans Wrote:  However, one woman kind of defended it by saying if you skip the "yucky sex parts" it's actually a good story...

Similarly, if you skip all of the senseless violence, the supernatural woo, and the boring parts, the Bible is actually a good story, too.

Of course, all that's left is a four page pamphlet of someone telling us to have basic empathy for other people, but still, it's a good story.
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28-02-2015, 12:49 PM
RE: Christian Women and 50 Shades books
For everyone who says what a horrible influence this book is to women, I always delight in pointing out that they already let their grammar school age children watch this movie in animated form, albeit without the sexual content.

Beauty and the beast! Belle, a bookish naive girl stumbles into beast's castle (highrise) and ultimately agrees to be beast's prisoner. He isolates her, controls even the food intake. Chrisitian is obsessed with Anna's eating.

The horrendous and dangerous message is that love conquers all. And that if you just love an abusive person *enough*, they will turn into a prince and you can change them through your love.

Any objection to the BDSM should be the horrible misrepresentation of it and nothing else.

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28-02-2015, 02:07 PM
RE: Christian Women and 50 Shades books
The reason that Christian women find sex "yucky"?????

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Christian MEN....



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28-02-2015, 02:16 PM
RE: Christian Women and 50 Shades books
(30-08-2014 11:19 AM)Can_of_Beans Wrote:  A woman I knew in high school is now an author who writes Christian fiction primarily aimed at women.

She posted a screen shot that showed her book ranked next to a 50 Shades of Grey book in Christian Fiction on Amazon. The comments section quickly filled up with comments from other Christian women talking about how that doesn't belong there, and how vile those books are, that sadly the reason was likely that Christian women were buying this book too, etc.

However, one woman kind of defended it by saying if you skip the "yucky sex parts" it's actually a good story...

My response was that it made complete sense to be on the list because it allows Christian women to indulge their two favorite emotions: moral outrage and guilt.

I also pointed out that skipping the "yucky sex parts" sounds suspiciously like the typically male claim that we read Playboy for the articles. Wink

She thought that was an unfair generalization.

Was I wrong?

I probably should have included Christian men in the "moral outrage and guilt" part, but we're talking about 50 Shades here. As far as I know, men aren't lining up to buy those books.

It seems like that fits with my observations growing up in the church. Although, perhaps I'm just projecting my own experiences of verbally denouncing sex and porn, secretly enjoying it, feeling bad it about afterwards and going back to God/church for forgiveness.

I don't think it's just projection, because that seems to be the way the entire Christianity thing is designed.

Why women are lining up to buy those books is beyond me, actually. 50 Shades is too much hype if you ask me. That said, Christianity teaches people to be ashamed of their lustful thoughts, which frankly are just normal healthy biological urges. Between consenting adults, I don't understand why religion makes such a big issue about sexuality, sexual expression, and how somehow God is upset with us all for enjoying sex in the ways we desire.

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28-02-2015, 02:20 PM
RE: Christian Women and 50 Shades books
Only the Catholic church could describe the pleasures of masturbation as "Self Abuse" ---- George Carlin

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