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03-08-2012, 02:32 PM
RE: Christian responses to Leviticus et. al?
If god is omnipresent, he is inside of me, a part of me.

God “cannot lie” (Titus 1:2), and He “cannot deny Himself” (2 Timothy 2:13)

The sky is red, and there is no GOD.

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03-08-2012, 02:39 PM
RE: Christian responses to Leviticus et. al?
(03-08-2012 02:31 PM)morondog Wrote:  If I may... horn in here Smile

Here's my solution to the time paradox A2 proposed.

Let's picture the universe as 3 dimensional for the moment, about the size of a watermelon, and in front of you right now. Hold it in your hands. we'll make one dimension time and the other two dimensions space dimensions Smile

Call the time dimension t and the other two x and y.

Now, you're *outside* this universe. You can *see* all time within the universe. You can squeeze the watermelon or twist it. From the outside looking in, you can change both the future and the past of the universe. But for someone one the inside who experiences time only going in one direction (the arrow of time), he *cannot tell* that anything has changed.

It's not quite a solution to the God omnipotence problem because it solves it by saying "God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent etc *within this universe*" i.e. it limits his omnipotence to only what's on the inside.

On the outside, God still can't do the dildo trick Big Grin

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I'm in a weird mood today. Playing Christian games Dodgy

One can't limit omnipotence, if ya could, therefore not omnipotent.

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03-08-2012, 02:43 PM
RE: Christian responses to Leviticus et. al?
(03-08-2012 02:39 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  One can't limit omnipotence, if ya could, therefore not omnipotent.

By arguing against omnipotence you are attempting to limit it. Since one can't I win! Angel
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03-08-2012, 02:44 PM
RE: Christian responses to Leviticus et. al?
(03-08-2012 02:39 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  One can't limit omnipotence, if ya could, therefore not omnipotent.

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03-08-2012, 02:46 PM
RE: Christian responses to Leviticus et. al?
From what I see, y'all don't have a problem with God's omnipotence, omniscience, or omnipresence, but instead, the actual concepts themselves.

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03-08-2012, 02:46 PM
RE: Christian responses to Leviticus et. al?
(03-08-2012 02:43 PM)morondog Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:39 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  One can't limit omnipotence, if ya could, therefore not omnipotent.

By arguing against omnipotence you are attempting to limit it. Since one can't I win! Angel

I don't see how u solved my paradox

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03-08-2012, 02:47 PM
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(03-08-2012 01:58 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:41 PM)Chas Wrote:  Omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, infinite, without beginning,...

You realize, you're just making this shit up, right? Mental masturbation. NO EVIDENCE.Drinking Beverage

This is according to what is written in the Bible.

But... this isn't what we're arguing, now is it?

That may not be where it started, but that's where the argument is now.

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03-08-2012, 02:49 PM
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(03-08-2012 02:46 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  From what I see, y'all don't have a problem with God's omnipotence, omniscience, or omnipresence, but instead, the actual concepts themselves.
Haven't you read my reply to you? Consider

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03-08-2012, 02:53 PM
RE: Christian responses to Leviticus et. al?
(03-08-2012 02:46 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:43 PM)morondog Wrote:  By arguing against omnipotence you are attempting to limit it. Since one can't I win! Angel

I don't see how u solved my paradox

As far as anyone within the watermelon universe is concerned, you (God) know the future and the past and can change both without giving rise to a contradiction. Think of the watermelon as an actual physical object. ithas a shape which you can deform. deforming the shape along the time axis corresponds to changing the future / past.
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03-08-2012, 03:02 PM
RE: Christian responses to Leviticus et. al?
(03-08-2012 02:46 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  From what I see, y'all don't have a problem with God's omnipotence, omniscience, or omnipresence, but instead, the actual concepts themselves.

Christianese definitions?

Or the English definitions?

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