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08-12-2016, 03:13 PM (This post was last modified: 08-12-2016 03:17 PM by Tomasia.)
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(08-12-2016 03:05 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  I'm not trying to correct, I am doing the same thing I have been doing with you for quite some time.

Exactly, if you're not trying to correct me, than clearly you can't appeal to your post as examples of someone correcting me, lol.


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Quote:I am provoking you into showing your true colors and allowing everyone to see how much of a large and ignorant asshole you are Thumbsup Keep up the good work

Ah huh.

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08-12-2016, 03:14 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(08-12-2016 03:13 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 03:05 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  I'm not trying to correct, I am doing the same thing I have been doing with you for quite some time.

Exactly, if you're not trying to correct me, than clearly you can't appeal to your post as examples of someone correcting me, lol.


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Quote:I am provoking you into showing your true colors and allowing everyone to see how much of a large and ignorant asshole you are Thumbsup Keep up the good work

Ah huh.

It's pretty clear that you don't get it. Just keep doing what you have been, it is clearly working wonders for you as your reputation shows. Drinking Beverage

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08-12-2016, 03:18 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(08-12-2016 03:14 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 03:13 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  Exactly, if you're not trying to correct me, than clearly you can't appeal to your post as examples of someone correcting me, lol.


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Ah huh.

It's pretty clear that you don't get it. Just keep doing what you have been, it is clearly working wonders for you as your reputation shows. Drinking Beverage

If it's not apparent, I'm not particularly interested in what image or impression I leave on others here, it's the internet for christ's-sake. While rep points, and esteem are relevant for those like yourself hoping to find a community here, it's really of no interest to me. I don't need random atheists on the internet to like me, lol.

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"In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
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08-12-2016, 03:25 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(08-12-2016 03:18 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 03:14 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  It's pretty clear that you don't get it. Just keep doing what you have been, it is clearly working wonders for you as your reputation shows. Drinking Beverage

If it's not apparent, I'm not particularly interested in what image or impression I leave on others here, it's the internet for christ's-sake. While rep points, and esteem are relevant for those like yourself hoping to find a community here, it's really of no interest to me. I don't need random atheists on the internet to like me, lol.

Yep, clearly whatever it is you are here for, you must be getting it.

(I am being facetious. This is the longest conversation you appear to have had in a long time and the most activity you have had on the forum in a long time. What that tells me is that what you want out of the forum is to be a troll, but you can't and won't troll when you are being ignored. I provoked the troll in this thread and look what happened! You became the troll you were always meant to be Thumbsup )

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08-12-2016, 03:39 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(08-12-2016 03:25 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  I provoked the troll in this thread and look what happened! You became the troll you were always meant to be Thumbsup )

Yes I know my post are so inflammatory, so laced with personal insults, so inciting.

If I'm troll, I must be the most innocuous troll that has ever existed, lol.

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08-12-2016, 03:46 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(08-12-2016 02:36 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  Ah, huh another predictable response.

I'm guessing this is what FatBaldHobbit would consider an example of someone correcting me. lol.

Actually, you can look in this thread.

You have repeatedly been criticized for claiming scientific skills, then exhibiting unscientific behavior.

You claim to want to "study" us. I believe you also compared us to chimps and dogs.

Would an anthropologist studying a foreign culture walk into a gathering and offend and insult everyone?

Would a primatologist sit down among a band of chimps and start annoying them?

Would a zoologist study dogs or wolves throw rocks at the pack and expect to get a "typical" response?



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08-12-2016, 04:49 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(08-12-2016 03:46 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Actually, you can look in this thread.

You have repeatedly been criticized for claiming scientific skills, then exhibiting unscientific behavior.

No, I compared my forming of a hypothesis, testing it’s conclusions, considering variables, etc.. to scientific investigation, and indicated that I didn’t mean this literally. As if I’m some paid researcher, working under a grant, with ample tools at my disposable, but pretty much like any random shmuck, can do a garbage rigged investigation, with very limited set of tools, and data and call it science. If you have issues with my methodology, have suggestions on how I can make more accurate assessments here, beyond mollycoddling, I’m open to hear it.


Quote:I believe you also compared us to chimps and dogs.

Yes, to the extent that any other human being, including myself can be compared to chimps and dogs, any every other animal we share millions of years of evolutionary history with. That we can make a variety of observations and conclusions about human beings, similarly to how we make of other animals. That much can be said not just of atheists, but humans in general based on an understanding of other animals as well. That we have far more in terms of common in terms of behavior than we don’t. Your as much of of a chimp or a dog, or a beetle, as I am, and my mother is.

Quote:Would an anthropologist studying a foreign culture walk into a gathering and offend and insult everyone?

Probably not, but they’ll likely keep their offensive conclusions to themselves as well. Just like psychiatrist don’t tend to tell their patients they’re deluded, even if they think they are. I don’t make a habit of personal insults, and it seems the extent of my offensive remarks, are comparing human beings to other animals, indicating that I don’t put much stock in people self-justifications, and that I have a variety of unflattering conclusions that may possibly be true. You can just say I’m doing science, gansta-style, outta of the hood.

Quote:Would a primatologist sit down among a band of chimps and start annoying them?

Sometimes sure, like when they attempt to recreate stressful situations, like exposing chicks to unpredictable light. Or how about the psychiatrist that put three crazy individuals who thought they were Jesus into the same room?

It also doesn’t seem to me that scientist avoid stressing individuals out, making people uncomfortable, etc.. because it’s an impediment to uncovering what’s true here, it can be, but it doesn’t have to be. We can throws rocks at dogs and wolves, and perhaps gauge a great deal about their behavior in relationship to these responses. It seems to me this sort of stuff is avoided primarily because it’s rude, morally unacceptable, but not necessarily unscientific. Doing science doesn’t have a moral dimension to it. For the same reason truth doesn’t.

But come on, you may not like my views, my comments or remarks, but I’m not throwing rocks at you, or slapping your mother. It’s nothing personal. Though I may not care how you feel, I’m not particularly interested in hurting your feeling either.

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08-12-2016, 06:43 PM
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08-12-2016, 09:27 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
Well the fait h is based apon caring for the other man instead of yourself.
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09-12-2016, 06:42 AM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(08-12-2016 09:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Well the fait h is based apon caring for the other man instead of yourself.

Now that's funny!

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