Christian vs. Humanist Morality
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09-12-2016, 06:36 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
I would say the same for abortion. But think if a man couldn't get a girl would he have to spend the rest of his life without one I mean that would be hard for him even though it is bad I would feel sorry for the dude.
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09-12-2016, 06:40 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
I mean its like a woman saying I left him and took his money becuase he wasn't giving me attention. I think that's fucked up too but we care for women more so we would accept that.
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09-12-2016, 06:40 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(09-12-2016 06:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  But think if a man couldn't get a girl would he have to spend the rest of his life without one I mean that would be hard for him even though it is bad I would feel sorry for the dude.

Feel sorry for him all you want -- but he has no right whatsoever to the company of a woman unless she desires it.

No exceptions.

Ever.
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09-12-2016, 06:41 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(09-12-2016 04:56 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Do unto others as you would do unto yourself.

That is not a bad maxim, especially given the disgusting morality in bible. Too bad it was around long before the bible author incorporated it. It also isn't as good as "do unto others as they would have you do unto them".

Quote:There has to be judgement for people who hurt other people.

It might be nice if there was always justice but there is no evidence that that is the case. Wanting it to be true is not enough.

Quote:It also says a whore thinks she's done nothing wrong do you agree with that.

In most cases, yes. Consensual sexual relations are not immoral in and of themselves. I'd need specific situations to evaluate it.

Quote:I don't care about rape all women are sluts anyway

you are truly a disgusting person. Your morality is completely fucked up.

Quote: it doesn't really harm them despite the emotional pridefulness they may have but I think it was giving compassion to men who may not be able to get a girl but its torture becuase they couldn't divorce which ment they had to maintain everything for her and it cost more if he wanted another girl that was the price to pay,

The gibberish returns... that was one steaming load of random nonsense

Quote:But the new testament jesus saves the adulterous woman from being stoned and stayed around women that where considered whores.

Too bad that story was added decades after the original gospel was written and is very unlikely to be real even if Jesus was an actual historical person.

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09-12-2016, 06:49 PM
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(09-12-2016 05:47 PM)socialistview Wrote:  It doesn't condon incest or genocide either forgot to add that.

Please explain where Cain and Abel got their wives from. Please explain how Noah and the other 7 members of the family re-populated the world without incest.

Then review the sections where your god orders the amalekites obliterated or where Joshua was rewarded for killing everybody in all the cities he attacked.

your bible condones both incest and genocide repeatedly.

(09-12-2016 06:13 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Depends on the context so you would allow murding thousands for a cause hun. I think prostitution should be legal but I'm saying women who disrupt families or mabe there is somethingvwrong with illicit sex peoples emotions get involved with situations like that. And I don't condone rape and niether does the bible you people keep bringing it up the bible atleast gives attention to it besides it being highly stimagtized in a women runned nation god does not let it go and still gives a punishment for it even though you don't think its much but I think compassion was being given to man in the old testament while now the new testament place judgement on men more than women, kinda like an opposite effect that makes things even between men and women. Im unbiased about both i think both is bad and deserve punishment.

I'm done trying to parse your verbal diarrhea. Learn to use the reply and quote functions so we know who you are answering. Then try using complete sentences and paragraphs.

Quote: And yes that originates with the bible.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...10%3A25-37

If you mean the "golden rule", nobody is arguing that it isn't in the bible. It just did not originate there. It is found in multiple earlier sources. try reading something other than canaanite mythology for once.

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09-12-2016, 06:54 PM
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That's not morality that's just telling it like I see it but what morality does the bible give then if its disgusting becuase all I see is god telling people to care for each other. And ya we don't always have justice so there's god to do that.
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09-12-2016, 06:59 PM
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(09-12-2016 06:54 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And ya we don't always have justice so there's god to do that.

No, the promise of divine justice is just a tool that religion uses to pacify people who are not obtaining justice in real life. Death is the great eraser, where all debts cease to exist because there is no longer anyone to reward or punish. No one actually "gets away with" anything; they are merely dead.
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09-12-2016, 07:08 PM
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(09-12-2016 06:54 PM)socialistview Wrote:  That's not morality that's just telling it like I see it but what morality does the bible give then if its disgusting becuase all I see is god telling people to care for each other.

that's because you cherry pick the good stuff and gloss over or find excuses for the bad stuff. Rape, incest, genocide misogyny,... it's all there if you'd actually read the text instead of finding ways to avoid it.

Quote:And ya we don't always have justice so there's god to do that.

Again, wanting that to be true does not make it so. We do not always have justice and that's simply the way it is. If we want justice we have to work for it ourselves.

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09-12-2016, 07:14 PM
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Its considered a hope for people who strive for a hope to be pacified. Why is it so hard to hope for things better without knowing. And astreja dispite what I said back there I don't agree with stuff like that but I just wanted to say that you attract me.
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09-12-2016, 07:16 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
I don't cherry pick. Jerico were sacrificing children and the amalakites were attacking the jews. Please give me awhole passage of a bad part.
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