Christian vs. Humanist Morality
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10-02-2017, 10:07 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(10-02-2017 09:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Like the stuff you use to detect ghost or you can always invoke an angel. I never said it could not be known.

There is nothing that detects ghosts. Facepalm

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10-02-2017, 10:11 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(10-02-2017 08:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  No the bible evolves around every religion. The bible is called the frakenstine religion becuase you can find so many parts of other religion in the bible.

It doesn't evolve at all; nor does it revolve around or involve every religion. There are similarities across religions because they are all man-made. The Hebrews did incorporate a lot of other religious beliefs into their theology over hundreds of years as they interacted with surrounding cultures. That's not an argument for truth in any of it.

Quote:And prophecy is explainable but we havent found yet to explain it.

It's explainable but we can't explain it... Facepalm

Quote:As i said hope we hope for things not seen. Sounds kinda quantum mechanics right there.

Only because you evidently have no idea what QM entails.

Quote:And what do you mean match reality.

Probably that it actually matches reality and isn't just mythology. Free clue: it doesn't match because it is mythology.

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10-02-2017, 10:32 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(10-02-2017 04:43 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Why are you trying to fown hope for something better.
"fown hope"??
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10-02-2017, 10:39 PM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2017 10:43 PM by mordant.)
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(10-02-2017 08:06 PM)socialistview Wrote:  [The Bible is] the only book that gives a future ...
Books don't "give a future". The future just IS -- whether long or short, pleasant or miserable. You probably meant something more like "the Bible is a source of hope for a better future" but then you should have said that. No matter, though, because that is wrong also.

Hope (a feeling of expectation or desire that a certain thing should / will happen) is generated by human minds deciding what they wish were true. What the Bible provides is one of many historically popular structures for erecting edifices of hope. Many of us prefer hope rooted in a bias-controlled understanding of what is actually likely to be true. The Bible does not provide this. Instead it deploys the failed epistemology of religious faith (belief without a requirement of evidence). The false hope it generates in a sufficiently aware person is invariably shown not to explain experienced reality or to predict outcomes.
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10-02-2017, 11:26 PM
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So you hope for a successful buisness though you don't know what that be like.
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10-02-2017, 11:26 PM
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https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&s...find+ghost
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10-02-2017, 11:30 PM
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+11
Read scriptures for answers.
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10-02-2017, 11:31 PM
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(10-02-2017 11:26 PM)socialistview Wrote:  https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&s...find+ghost

Laugh out load

Cute/funny/awesome link.

Bravo.

So then what actually is a ghost?
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11-02-2017, 01:42 AM
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Are you still a rape apologist, or did you change your opinion on that topic? Drinking Beverage

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11-02-2017, 03:28 AM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
Just jumping in late here...

A lot of christians have been taught to believe that they would rape and kill if they lost their faith. They may well truly believe it. But this has been shown to be false, in most cases. I've heard from loads of people who have lost their faith and then realised...

"Actually, I don't want to rape and kill people. Huh."

I've not heard about anyone who has lost their faith and then turned into a rampaging psycho. If there are any, they have to be the tiny minority. And they are clearly already psychopaths, which religion was keeping in check. Then of course, there's the matter of PRISON.

I think there are better secular ways of trying to deal with psycopathy, which won't simply fall away if people stop believing in sky fairies.

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