Christian vs. Humanist Morality
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27-01-2017, 06:02 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(27-01-2017 02:01 AM)socialistview Wrote:  I've seen every perspective and I know what I'm talking about I read the whole bible that's why I believe and I believe every other preacher is false except me.

This is the most egotistical and delusional statement I have encountered in a great while.

Except possibly something from Trump. Consider

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27-01-2017, 07:12 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(07-01-2017 10:12 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And nostradomus had induced visions you can't use nutmeg for visions.

The fuck you can't. A tablespoon or 2 of ground nutmeg has enough myristicin to give you mild hallucinations. It'll also cause dizziness, nausea, cottonmouth, paranoia, difficulty urinating and, just for kicks, a hangover that feels like God is taking a shit on your soul. It'll definitely give you visions, but you won't like them. Oh and it takes like 6 hours to kick in just long enough so you forget about it first. You should try it.

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27-01-2017, 07:35 PM (This post was last modified: 27-01-2017 07:52 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(26-01-2017 11:41 PM)socialistview Wrote:  God wants to see if you deserve eternal life right say you don't need to earn eternal life.

No, that's not it. God wants to see if you desire eternal life and if so you are immediately disqualified for being too stupid to use it properly.

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01-02-2017, 02:45 PM
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"This is nothing less than the abrogation of personal responsibility—a mindset that has always been and continues to be the source of much damage to world society."

So? What's wrong with that? What is morally wrong with doing damage to the world in your ethical system?

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01-02-2017, 04:02 PM
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(01-02-2017 02:45 PM)Naielis Wrote:  "This is nothing less than the abrogation of personal responsibility—a mindset that has always been and continues to be the source of much damage to world society."

So? What's wrong with that? What is morally wrong with doing damage to the world in your ethical system?

So you are advocating doing damage to the world with your religious beliefs?

At least you're honest about what effects it will have. Drinking Beverage

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01-02-2017, 06:12 PM
RE: Christian vs. Humanist Morality
(01-02-2017 02:45 PM)Naielis Wrote:  "This is nothing less than the abrogation of personal responsibility—a mindset that has always been and continues to be the source of much damage to world society."

So? What's wrong with that? What is morally wrong with doing damage to the world in your ethical system?


Trolls gotta troll. Drinking Beverage

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01-02-2017, 10:55 PM
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(01-02-2017 02:45 PM)Naielis Wrote:  What is morally wrong with doing damage to the world in your ethical system?

The fact that I have to fucking live here, and it's considerably more pleasant when everything is peaceful and in good working order. Not interested in fighting off enemies and competitors 24/7 or scrounging for food and water in a dying ecosystem. If you damage the world you damage yourself.

I'm sorry, but your beliefs are much too silly to take seriously. Got anything else we can discuss?
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02-02-2017, 05:22 AM
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Christianity has one moral. Love god. All else is permitted.

I consider it a moral vacuum.

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02-02-2017, 07:03 AM
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(27-11-2016 02:07 PM)Rik Wrote:  That is a rather simplistic and ignorant portrayal of humanist morality. Are you intentionally insulting?
Versions of the Golden Rule form the basis - others have the same rights that I do, so I treat them the way I want to be treated.
It's pretty straightforward.

Why do others have any rights? Why do you have rights? In many atheist worldviews, morality is just taken for granted. You haven't given a justification for your moral claims. You've just asserted your subjectivist morality onto everyone else.

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02-02-2017, 07:07 AM
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I agree with you, but I wanted to comment on your signature. Skepticism is a position. It's a claim that requires justification. The obvious problem is that the claim states ultimate justification is impossible. Skepticism requires certainty to fuel it's doubt.

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