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26-08-2016, 06:09 PM
RE: Christianity IS insanity!
(26-08-2016 05:49 PM)johnnybrooks Wrote:  {Thanks to everyone for your comments and welcome!}
Trump said: "I believe in the power of prayer. This doesn’t always happen on the timing of man, and God does not work in four-year segments."
---------------- Christians I'm afraid that your imaginary sky daddy doesn't work or answer prayers at all or at ANY time. Why is this?
--- Because there are no gods! The so-called jewish christian muslim holy books are nothing but lies.
Almost every war and almost all of the worlds problems are due to the pseudo-morality of these pretentious belief systems.
Religion has always been a superfluous poison to and for the human race and there will never be peace in the world as long as allah, jesus, jehovah and their deluded adherents are in our midst.

The intelligentsia omits god from every logical and reasonable cogitation in our evolving cortex. We despise the very concept of an overlord and will never understand why other humans desire this celestial North Korea. If the dogmatic want to dance naked around a bonfire with a snake in each hand speaking glossolalia while they eat crackers and drink grape juice and pretend that it's the body and blood of jesus, that's fine. Just don't try to teach our children your creationists pettifog which is devoid of any scientific evidence whatsoever.

Religion is Man Made Mind Control for the gullible masses.
A cure for this disease?
An emancipation from, and an eradication of.

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Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
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26-08-2016, 06:35 PM
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Welcome to TTA.

That's not even scratching the surface of the misogyny, xenophobia, and contempt for every modern concept of human rights contained in scriptures. Don't worry, we delve into all of it.

I think you'll enjoy your time here. Smile

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26-08-2016, 07:57 PM
RE: Christianity IS insanity!
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Huh Why is an orange man holding a black bible?

Brand management... Marketing to the gullible.

He's trying to say that Orange is the new Black.

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26-08-2016, 08:01 PM
RE: Christianity IS insanity!
(26-08-2016 11:36 AM)johnnybrooks Wrote:  Christianity is insane!
It requires christians to disregard the commandments and to cast away every shred of human decency and common sense:
“Honor your father and your mother" Exodus 20:12 (one of the ten commandments)
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus
"I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother" Jesus

Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching, Proverbs 1:8
"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me" Jesus

Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Psalm 127:3
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his children, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus
"anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Jesus

“Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against one another, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother in law against daughter in law and daughter in law against mother in law.” (Luke 12:50-53)

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A mans enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."
Jesus in Luke 14 and Matthew 10

If anyone comes to me and does not hate their father
If anyone comes to me and does not hate their mother
If anyone comes to me and does not hate their wife
hate their children
hate their brothers
hate their sisters
hate their own life
hate their self
they cannot be my disciple
(they cannot be saved).

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own life—he cannot be my disciple."

jesus is saying that unless we hate our LIFE we cannot be saved. Our LIFE is: Our family, our home, our pets, our job, our motorcycle, our beds, our food, our vehicles, our friends, our EVERYTHING!

Jesus the megalomaniacal narcissist wants us to love him more than our own lives! He wants us to love someone who never talks to us and who never answers us, someone we cannot see and who never shows up to any church or place of worship.

Lie after lie.
Deceptions heaped one upon another.
This is christianity and its inevitable offspring; islam.

No thank you jesus.
No thanks allah.
Please join jupiter, apollo, zeus, posiedon, and all the other artificial gods of history and just disappear and be forgotten.
JohnnyJacksonBrooks

johnny,

Perhaps you just do not understand those spiritual terms. I am happy to explain any of those if you would like me to.

For example the hate ones parents phrase simply means that we put Jesus before anything else in our life. I can understand if you cannot do that. Many cannot. But it is not insanity. It is just another way of teaching Gods Law, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength.

JohnR
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26-08-2016, 09:23 PM
RE: Christianity IS insanity!
(26-08-2016 08:01 PM)highrigger Wrote:  
(26-08-2016 11:36 AM)johnnybrooks Wrote:  Christianity is insane!
It requires christians to disregard the commandments and to cast away every shred of human decency and common sense:
“Honor your father and your mother" Exodus 20:12 (one of the ten commandments)
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus
"I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother" Jesus

Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching, Proverbs 1:8
"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me" Jesus

Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Psalm 127:3
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his children, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus
"anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Jesus

“Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against one another, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother in law against daughter in law and daughter in law against mother in law.” (Luke 12:50-53)

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A mans enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."
Jesus in Luke 14 and Matthew 10

If anyone comes to me and does not hate their father
If anyone comes to me and does not hate their mother
If anyone comes to me and does not hate their wife
hate their children
hate their brothers
hate their sisters
hate their own life
hate their self
they cannot be my disciple
(they cannot be saved).

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own life—he cannot be my disciple."

jesus is saying that unless we hate our LIFE we cannot be saved. Our LIFE is: Our family, our home, our pets, our job, our motorcycle, our beds, our food, our vehicles, our friends, our EVERYTHING!

Jesus the megalomaniacal narcissist wants us to love him more than our own lives! He wants us to love someone who never talks to us and who never answers us, someone we cannot see and who never shows up to any church or place of worship.

Lie after lie.
Deceptions heaped one upon another.
This is christianity and its inevitable offspring; islam.

No thank you jesus.
No thanks allah.
Please join jupiter, apollo, zeus, posiedon, and all the other artificial gods of history and just disappear and be forgotten.
JohnnyJacksonBrooks

johnny,

Perhaps you just do not understand those spiritual terms. I am happy to explain any of those if you would like me to.

For example the hate ones parents phrase simply means that we put Jesus before anything else in our life. I can understand if you cannot do that. Many cannot. But it is not insanity. It is just another way of teaching Gods Law, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength.

JohnR

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Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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26-08-2016, 09:46 PM
RE: Christianity IS insanity!
(26-08-2016 08:01 PM)highrigger Wrote:  
(26-08-2016 11:36 AM)johnnybrooks Wrote:  Christianity is insane!
It requires christians to disregard the commandments and to cast away every shred of human decency and common sense:
“Honor your father and your mother" Exodus 20:12 (one of the ten commandments)
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus
"I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother" Jesus

Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching, Proverbs 1:8
"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me" Jesus

Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Psalm 127:3
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his children, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus
"anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Jesus

“Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against one another, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother in law against daughter in law and daughter in law against mother in law.” (Luke 12:50-53)

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A mans enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."
Jesus in Luke 14 and Matthew 10

If anyone comes to me and does not hate their father
If anyone comes to me and does not hate their mother
If anyone comes to me and does not hate their wife
hate their children
hate their brothers
hate their sisters
hate their own life
hate their self
they cannot be my disciple
(they cannot be saved).

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own life—he cannot be my disciple."

jesus is saying that unless we hate our LIFE we cannot be saved. Our LIFE is: Our family, our home, our pets, our job, our motorcycle, our beds, our food, our vehicles, our friends, our EVERYTHING!

Jesus the megalomaniacal narcissist wants us to love him more than our own lives! He wants us to love someone who never talks to us and who never answers us, someone we cannot see and who never shows up to any church or place of worship.

Lie after lie.
Deceptions heaped one upon another.
This is christianity and its inevitable offspring; islam.

No thank you jesus.
No thanks allah.
Please join jupiter, apollo, zeus, posiedon, and all the other artificial gods of history and just disappear and be forgotten.
JohnnyJacksonBrooks

johnny,

Perhaps you just do not understand those spiritual terms. I am happy to explain any of those if you would like me to.

For example the hate ones parents phrase simply means that we put Jesus before anything else in our life. I can understand if you cannot do that. Many cannot. But it is not insanity. It is just another way of teaching Gods Law, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength.

JohnR

"Perhaps you just do not understand those spiritual terms. I am happy to explain..."

Facepalm Another patronising "expert" in hermeneutics!

Go ahead, give us a sermon (said the spider to the fly...Big Grin)
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27-08-2016, 02:25 AM
RE: Christianity IS insanity!
(26-08-2016 11:36 AM)johnnybrooks Wrote:  Christianity is insane!
It requires christians to disregard the commandments and to cast away every shred of human decency and common sense:
“Honor your father and your mother" Exodus 20:12 (one of the ten commandments)
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus
"I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother" Jesus

Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching, Proverbs 1:8
"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me" Jesus

Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Psalm 127:3
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his children, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus
"anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Jesus

“Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against one another, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother in law against daughter in law and daughter in law against mother in law.” (Luke 12:50-53)

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A mans enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."
Jesus in Luke 14 and Matthew 10

If anyone comes to me and does not hate their father
If anyone comes to me and does not hate their mother
If anyone comes to me and does not hate their wife
hate their children
hate their brothers
hate their sisters
hate their own life
hate their self
they cannot be my disciple
(they cannot be saved).

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own life—he cannot be my disciple."

jesus is saying that unless we hate our LIFE we cannot be saved. Our LIFE is: Our family, our home, our pets, our job, our motorcycle, our beds, our food, our vehicles, our friends, our EVERYTHING!

Jesus the megalomaniacal narcissist wants us to love him more than our own lives! He wants us to love someone who never talks to us and who never answers us, someone we cannot see and who never shows up to any church or place of worship.

Lie after lie.
Deceptions heaped one upon another.
This is christianity and its inevitable offspring; islam.

No thank you jesus.
No thanks allah.
Please join jupiter, apollo, zeus, posiedon, and all the other artificial gods of history and just disappear and be forgotten.
JohnnyJacksonBrooks

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27-08-2016, 03:41 AM
RE: Christianity IS insanity!
(26-08-2016 08:01 PM)highrigger Wrote:  johnny,

Perhaps you just do not understand those spiritual terms. I am happy to explain any of those if you would like me to.

For example the hate ones parents phrase simply means that we put Jesus before anything else in our life. I can understand if you cannot do that. Many cannot. But it is not insanity. It is just another way of teaching Gods Law, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength.

JohnR

I hate to say it, but I have to agree with the Christian, here.

Atheists use this phrase too much, and it robs our credibility in the eyes of Christians to whom we say it. The standard interpretation of this verse is that one must place following Jesus' teachings above one's own family, even, not that you should literally hate them.

The verse means your first loyalty should be to your religion; this is hardly a surprising thing for any religion to claim, as disgusting and cult-like as the concept is to us.

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27-08-2016, 06:26 AM
RE: Christianity IS insanity!
(26-08-2016 06:09 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(26-08-2016 05:49 PM)johnnybrooks Wrote:  {Thanks to everyone for your comments and welcome!}
Trump said: "I believe in the power of prayer. This doesn’t always happen on the timing of man, and God does not work in four-year segments."
---------------- Christians I'm afraid that your imaginary sky daddy doesn't work or answer prayers at all or at ANY time. Why is this?
--- Because there are no gods! The so-called jewish christian muslim holy books are nothing but lies.
Almost every war and almost all of the worlds problems are due to the pseudo-morality of these pretentious belief systems.
Religion has always been a superfluous poison to and for the human race and there will never be peace in the world as long as allah, jesus, jehovah and their deluded adherents are in our midst.

The intelligentsia omits god from every logical and reasonable cogitation in our evolving cortex. We despise the very concept of an overlord and will never understand why other humans desire this celestial North Korea. If the dogmatic want to dance naked around a bonfire with a snake in each hand speaking glossolalia while they eat crackers and drink grape juice and pretend that it's the body and blood of jesus, that's fine. Just don't try to teach our children your creationists pettifog which is devoid of any scientific evidence whatsoever.

Religion is Man Made Mind Control for the gullible masses.
A cure for this disease?
An emancipation from, and an eradication of.

JohnnyJacksonBrooks



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Huh Why is an orange man holding a black bible?

Someone has to stand up for Oompa Loompas, and since they're not brown, Trump is all for it!

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27-08-2016, 06:36 AM
RE: Christianity IS insanity!
(26-08-2016 08:01 PM)highrigger Wrote:  
(26-08-2016 11:36 AM)johnnybrooks Wrote:  Christianity is insane!
It requires christians to disregard the commandments and to cast away every shred of human decency and common sense:
“Honor your father and your mother" Exodus 20:12 (one of the ten commandments)
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus
"I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother" Jesus

Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching, Proverbs 1:8
"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me" Jesus

Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Psalm 127:3
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his children, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus
"anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Jesus

“Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against one another, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother in law against daughter in law and daughter in law against mother in law.” (Luke 12:50-53)

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A mans enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."
Jesus in Luke 14 and Matthew 10

If anyone comes to me and does not hate their father
If anyone comes to me and does not hate their mother
If anyone comes to me and does not hate their wife
hate their children
hate their brothers
hate their sisters
hate their own life
hate their self
they cannot be my disciple
(they cannot be saved).

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own life—he cannot be my disciple."

jesus is saying that unless we hate our LIFE we cannot be saved. Our LIFE is: Our family, our home, our pets, our job, our motorcycle, our beds, our food, our vehicles, our friends, our EVERYTHING!

Jesus the megalomaniacal narcissist wants us to love him more than our own lives! He wants us to love someone who never talks to us and who never answers us, someone we cannot see and who never shows up to any church or place of worship.

Lie after lie.
Deceptions heaped one upon another.
This is christianity and its inevitable offspring; islam.

No thank you jesus.
No thanks allah.
Please join jupiter, apollo, zeus, posiedon, and all the other artificial gods of history and just disappear and be forgotten.
JohnnyJacksonBrooks

johnny,

Perhaps you just do not understand those spiritual terms. I am happy to explain any of those if you would like me to.

For example the hate ones parents phrase simply means that we put Jesus before anything else in our life. I can understand if you cannot do that. Many cannot. But it is not insanity. It is just another way of teaching Gods Law, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength.

JohnR

Matthew 19:21- 21- Jesus told him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.”

Since you posted with a computer, it's safe to say you haven't done this, so your happy ass will be in hell according to Christian mythology.

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