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20-07-2016, 08:55 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(20-07-2016 08:34 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  
(20-07-2016 06:02 PM)Banjo Wrote:  No Baptist is best.

Jesus came in year 33. Eastern orthodox Church was established on Pentecost around year 33 and has same doctrine since then.

Where was Baptist Church, SDA Church, non denominational Church in years 34, 35, 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600,700,800,900,1000,1100,1200,1300,1400,1500?
Going back to the UN scriptural tradition is right because it is tradition again I see. I think they call that circular logic or circular thinking around here.

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20-07-2016, 08:57 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(20-07-2016 08:55 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  ]

Who is Psellus?

Western Europe was 1000 years Eastern orthodox, 500 years Catholic and 500 years Protestant.

The Eastern empire lasted from 330 AD to May 29 1453.

Who is Psellus? Laughat

Bwahahahahahahahaha Big Grin

You haven't got a fucking clue!

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20-07-2016, 08:58 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(20-07-2016 08:55 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(20-07-2016 08:34 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Jesus came in year 33. Eastern orthodox Church was established on Pentecost around year 33 and has same doctrine since then.

Where was Baptist Church, SDA Church, non denominational Church in years 34, 35, 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600,700,800,900,1000,1100,1200,1300,1400,1500?
Going back to the UN scriptural tradition is right because it is tradition again I see. I think they call that circular logic or circular thinking around here.

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Oh geez. Never heard of Emperor Constantine, the bishop Eusebius?

The ignorance currently going around on this site is utterly astounding!

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20-07-2016, 09:04 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(20-07-2016 08:42 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  
(20-07-2016 08:34 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Jesus came in year 33. Eastern orthodox Church was established on Pentecost around year 33 and has same doctrine since then.

Where was Baptist Church, SDA Church, non denominational Church in years 34, 35, 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600,700,800,900,1000,1100,1200,1300,1400,1500?

Wikipedia about baptists:
"Historians trace the earliest church labeled "Baptist" back to 1609 in Amsterdam, with English Separatist John Smyth as its pastor.[3]"

So why the Church established by a man, JOHN SMITH is better than Eastern orthodox Church established by Jesus and Apostles. Why would you like to be in Church of John Smith and not in Church of Jesus Christ?

Wikipedia about SDA:
"The denomination grew out of the Millerite movement in the United States during the mid-19th century and was formally established in 1863.[5] Among its founders was Ellen G. White, whose extensive writings are still held in high regard by the church.[6]"

Again why would you like to be in the Church established by a WOMAN Ellen White and not in the Church established by Jesus Christ and Apostles?
I thought Baptist successionism went back to John the Baptist.



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20-07-2016, 09:09 PM (This post was last modified: 20-07-2016 09:15 PM by pasadi97.)
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(20-07-2016 09:04 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(20-07-2016 08:42 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Wikipedia about baptists:
"Historians trace the earliest church labeled "Baptist" back to 1609 in Amsterdam, with English Separatist John Smyth as its pastor.[3]"

So why the Church established by a man, JOHN SMITH is better than Eastern orthodox Church established by Jesus and Apostles. Why would you like to be in Church of John Smith and not in Church of Jesus Christ?

Wikipedia about SDA:
"The denomination grew out of the Millerite movement in the United States during the mid-19th century and was formally established in 1863.[5] Among its founders was Ellen G. White, whose extensive writings are still held in high regard by the church.[6]"

Again why would you like to be in the Church established by a WOMAN Ellen White and not in the Church established by Jesus Christ and Apostles?
I thought Baptist successionism went back to John the Baptist.



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Nope. There was no Protestant Church prior to 1500 neither Protestant doctrine prior to Luther around 1500. No baptists, sda or non denominational prior to Luther. Neither their doctrines. Most Protestant believe Church of Jesus failed in year 300+. Read Church writtings prior to that datra and try to find Protestantism there. Good luck. Is all about today Eastern orthodox doctrine.

Example. Apostle Luke painted icons. Churches prior to 1500 respect icons and have icons. Most Protestant Churches despise icons. No Church despising icons prior to 1500. Many other examples.

Luther and first Protestants came from Catholic Church. There was no hidden Church.,
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20-07-2016, 09:10 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(20-07-2016 09:04 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(20-07-2016 08:42 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Wikipedia about baptists:
"Historians trace the earliest church labeled "Baptist" back to 1609 in Amsterdam, with English Separatist John Smyth as its pastor.[3]"

So why the Church established by a man, JOHN SMITH is better than Eastern orthodox Church established by Jesus and Apostles. Why would you like to be in Church of John Smith and not in Church of Jesus Christ?

Wikipedia about SDA:
"The denomination grew out of the Millerite movement in the United States during the mid-19th century and was formally established in 1863.[5] Among its founders was Ellen G. White, whose extensive writings are still held in high regard by the church.[6]"

Again why would you like to be in the Church established by a WOMAN Ellen White and not in the Church established by Jesus Christ and Apostles?
I thought Baptist successionism went back to John the Baptist.



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You two ought to get a room and expound on your particular flavors of xtianity to each other. Somewhere deep into a bottle of Jim Beam bourbon, you could probably find some fellowship. To be honest, I think you both have partaken of some seriously bad Kool-Aid, and I bet that that bourbon is the antidote.
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20-07-2016, 09:49 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(20-07-2016 09:09 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  
(20-07-2016 09:04 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I thought Baptist successionism went back to John the Baptist.



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Nope. There was no Protestant Church prior to 1500 neither Protestant doctrine prior to Luther around 1500. No baptists, sda or non denominational prior to Luther. Neither their doctrines. Most Protestant believe Church of Jesus failed in year 300+. Read Church writtings prior to that datra and try to find Protestantism there. Good luck. Is all about today Eastern orthodox doctrine.

Example. Apostle Luke painted icons. Churches prior to 1500 respect icons and have icons. Most Protestant Churches despise icons. No Church despising icons prior to 1500. Many other examples.

Luther and first Protestants came from Catholic Church. There was no hidden Church.,
Oh. That's odd.

Baptist historian Bruce Gourley outlines four main views of Baptist origins: (1) The modern scholarly consensus that the movement traces its origin to the 17th century via the English Separatists, (2) the view that it was an outgrowth of Anabaptist traditions, (3) the perpetuity view which assumes that the Baptist faith and practice has existed since the time of Christ, and (4) the successionist view, or "Baptist successionism", which argues that Baptist churches actually existed in an unbroken chain since the time of Christ.[3]

Prior to the 20th century, Baptist historians generally wrote from the perspective that Baptists had existed since the time of Christ.[20] Proponents of the Baptist successionist or perpetuity view consider the Baptist movement to have existed independently from Roman Catholicism and prior to the Protestant Reformation.[21]

The perpetuity view is often identified with The Trail of Blood, a booklet of five lectures by J.M. Carrol published in 1931.[21] Other Baptist writers who advocate the successionist theory of Baptist origins are John T. Christian, Thomas Crosby, G. H. Orchard, J. M. Cramp, William Cathcart, Adam Taylor and D. B. Ray[21][22] This view was also held by English Baptist preacher, Charles Spurgeon[23] as well as Jesse Mercer, the namesake of Mercer University.[24][original research?]

Baptist successionism (also known as "Baptist perpetuity") is one of several theories on the origin and continuation of Baptist churches. The tenet of the theory is that there has been an unbroken chain of churches since the days of John the Baptist, who baptized Christ, which have held beliefs similar (although not always the name) to those of current Baptists. Ancient anti-paedobaptist groups, such as the Montanists, Paulicians, Cathari, Waldenses, Albigenses, and Anabaptists, have been among those viewed by Baptist successionists as the predecessors of modern-day Baptists.[1]

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20-07-2016, 10:16 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(20-07-2016 08:31 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  More than that infallibility of the Church is described in Bible in Acts of the Apostle.

Pasadi, you cannot use a book as evidence of its own claims. That is what is known as circular reasoning, and if you resort to that kind of flawed logic you will have no defence against other people writing things and then claiming them to be true.
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21-07-2016, 12:18 AM
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Lutheranism is the best.

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21-07-2016, 01:22 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(20-07-2016 06:00 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  
(20-07-2016 12:54 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  How do you know it was God. Did he talk to you?

You said you want to ask other people about best religion and denomination. I say don't forget to ask God about best religion and denomination in his eyes.
Say
Dear God please lert me kn ow which is the best religion and denomination in your eyes. Please teach me about all religions and denominations the way you see them Please show to me your miracles that you do .Amen.

God know better.

I know of four instances when people asked God about which denomination is best. only one instance is written in a book.

The name of the book is "History of Moldavia or "Letopisetul Tarii Moldovei". In the book is the following story. Micheal the great jut won a battle against people of Transylvania and wanted to build a Church. The problem was that people of Transylvania in that city were Roman Catholic and people of Michael the Great were eastern Orthodox . Everyone wanted a Church in their denomination. After debate they agreed to build the Church for the denomination that is right. Rom,an Catholic people said lets debate and who wins the debate wins. People of Michael the Great did not agree and said lets ask God for a miracle. They agreed. So they decided to obtain Holy Water and to put in a Church for several days., Then to pray to God to make Holy Water of true denomination crisp and to make the Holy Water of wrong denomination foul and smelly. So they did like that and after 3 days they opened the Church and Eastern Orthodox Holy Water was crisp and good anyhow Roman Catholic Holy water was foul and smelling. So the Church built was Eastern orthodox.

Holy Water is special water obtained through blessing. It resits for years . Some people say its molecular movement changed from brownian movement to a more ordered movement. http://stmaryofstamford.org/holywater.html

The second instance was a protestant woman that prayed to a Roman Catholic Saint for best denomination. She had a vision seeing an Eastern orthodox monk. She recognized it later as Saint Seraphim of Sarov and she become eastern orthodox.

In Africa a man heard about Roman Catholic Church, Protestant Church and an offshot Eastern orthodox Church and asked God about which denomination is right. After that he received a vision about a priest in garment of Eastern Orthodox priest and came to that Church.

I have asked God in prayer about best denomination and religion in his eyes and to show me his miracles. I run on some articles and I had several thoughts that convinced me Eastern orthodox Church is the best denomination.

Please stop unrelated babbling. You may do this witin your church or congregation. I prefer actual conversation. If you dont want to engage with me, then say so. If you wanna talk to me, then do so, related to my topics.
I consider random talkings to strangers to be either pathologic or an insult.

So again, and please no 2 page essays.

How.do.you.know.it.was.God.
Are you trying to tell me its because some other people say so?
Quote:I have asked God in prayer about best denomination and religion in his eyes and to show me his miracles. I run on some articles and I had several thoughts that convinced me Eastern orthodox Church is the best denomination.
Please spare me with stories of other people and why other people may or may not have engaged with god. Or are you trying to argue you believe all this because someone else said/wrote that something happened to him/her? Are you really that gullible?

Did he talk to you?

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