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04-08-2016, 06:11 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(04-08-2016 10:38 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  I'm still laughing at where he thinks the Campus Crusade for Christ is an Orthodox faction in the USA... those guys couldn't be more Southern Baptist/Evangelical if they tried!

(Much later than I typed the above...)

Good grief. The sadness in my heart. I was looking up the CCFC (aka "Cru") to see if it was somehow different than it was in the days when I was a member (and still a Christian) back in the early 1990s... and I see it is not. But I came across this blog entry by a Christian who was a member of Cru and dared to voice on his blog the audacious thought that God loved everyone, and when chastised by his group leaders (and vehemently berated by members), said God did not want people to be submissive to authority which said to hate:

“Ryan,” he shook his head and looked me in the eyes, “God absolutely hates you.”

I glanced down, uncomfortable.

“God does not hate anyone.”

“See, this is exactly what I’m talking about,” he said, smiling, pulling up Chapter 2 from the book of Revelation on his iPhone. “You really need to submit to the scriptures more. God loves you but he also hates you. And it is right for him to hate and kill and to tell us to hate or kill whoever he wants!”

I glanced at the words on the phone he handed me, a sentence from the final book of the Bible:

“But you have this in your favor: You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.”

“Do you see? God hates you.”

“You mean love the sinner, hate the sin,” I tried, feeling like I now was beginning to understand his point.

“No. Not just your sin. You. God hates sinners with a righteous fire. What’s more, he commands us to hate people who believe the wrong things. Like the Nicolaitans.”

Like Red Letter Christians.

I sat still, for I had never heard such anger in my friend’s voice.

Images of my atheist, Jewish, Greek Orthodox, Liberal Christian, and Muslim friends flashed before my eyes. Not only, was I being told, did God hate them, but also that he commanded me to hate them as well.

“God does not hate anyone, and we are not supposed to hate people either. Maybe their sins, but not them,” I said, surer now. “Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him. You can’t hate people and call yourself a Christian. That’s the point of Christianity.”

My friend told me I was being “unsubmissive to authority” and “selective in my scriptural interpretation.”


(Bold represents italics in original.)

https://arealrattlesnake.com/2013/03/23/...or-christ/

So, yeah... Campus Crusade for Christ, everbody!
https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/orthodoxb...orthodoxy/
On 1 July 2012, Fr. Peter Gillquist reposed in the Lord. He is widely known as the author of Becoming Orthodox. He is also known for being part of a group former Campus Crusade for Christ leaders who led some 2000 Evangelicals into the Orthodox Church in 1987 (see video). The numerous comments on the website of All Saints Orthodox Church in Bloomington, Indiana revealed his influence on the lives of so many people in America and abroad.

http://journeytoorthodoxy.com/tag/campus...or-christ/
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04-08-2016, 06:26 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
Pops. Pot can make holes ion brain and depending on pot the holes can be so big that one can put a finger through it destroying the person.

Its hard to renounce smoking, Try prayer and try to smoke fewer and fewer cigarretes or cut from cigarrete little by little every week until you remain without need to smoke.

Going to church is a sacrifice to God so you should not care about what others think of you. Wow I did not know you have the gift of tears. Many advanced people wanted this gift aqnd do not have it.
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04-08-2016, 06:29 PM
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Pretty sure you're confusing pot (marijuana) with something else. Maybe bath salts or meth amphetamine.

It bothers me that you assume to know what I do or don't pray about.

Is being so blindly presumptuous a given with excessive pride or is there some other underlying issue?

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04-08-2016, 06:46 PM
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This thread is simple madness.

NOTE: Member, Tomasia uses this site to slander other individuals. He then later proclaims it a joke, but not in public.
I will call him a liar and a dog here and now.
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04-08-2016, 06:51 PM
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(04-08-2016 06:29 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Pretty sure you're confusing pot (marijuana) with something else. Maybe bath salts or meth amphetamine.

It bothers me that you assume to know what I do or don't pray about.

Is being so blindly presumptuous a given with excessive pride or is there some other underlying issue?

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Pobst, try vaping instead of cigarettes. It isn't fully researched and most likely also harmful, but it does let abused lungs recoup from smoke. And you can vape your weed too. They have units where you put in the actual weed and vape it. Much better for abused lungs, give it a shot. Many people then can cut down on the vaping and quit - it's easier to quit than cigarettes. Good luck.

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04-08-2016, 09:59 PM
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(04-08-2016 04:58 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  .. Wrote close, personal stuff....

Hug

Seriously? I hope where you are has good medicine that you can access.

Hug

Be well and wishing you all the very best.
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04-08-2016, 11:52 PM
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(04-08-2016 06:26 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Its hard to renounce smoking, Try prayer and try to smoke fewer and fewer cigarretes or cut from cigarrete little by little every week until you remain without need to smoke.

Yes its hard, but no god needed. How about taking some responsibility for your life and make decisions all for yourself? You know, decisions you will stick to?
When i decided to quit smoking, i.just.quit. The last open pack is still next to my TV (for several years now) and every day i can look with pride at it and say: done.

Give up your slave mentality and grow a backbone for fucks sake.

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05-08-2016, 01:33 AM
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(04-08-2016 06:46 PM)Banjo Wrote:  This thread is simple madness.

Yeah I agree its totally fucked up right here Facepalm
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05-08-2016, 01:37 AM (This post was last modified: 05-08-2016 02:15 AM by adey67.)
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(04-08-2016 04:58 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(03-08-2016 11:19 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  At work.

Popcorn

Hello Pops! Thumbsup

Might you please list your 'Sins' and their 'Whys' and contexts and such please?
I'll list the most apparent ones to start. Some are hard for me to put into words.

But the most obvious that I knowingly fight against or am aware of before I do them are smoking cigarettes; I have copd and approximately 50% lung capacity, maybe worse. It's been a few years since I've gotten a pulmonary function test, at which time they said my lungs were at 60% efficiency or whatever. Anyway; it's effectively killing me and destroying my temple or body. I know this yet continue. That is known sin. The second is much like the first. I justify smoking pot because it is an expectorant and keeps me calm. This is hypocritical though, as any smoke or dust or foreign thing that I breath in is very damaging to my wakened lungs. The temporary calm wears off and I can I will be on edge, ready to snap on any little thing. This is knowing sin for multiple reasons. Lungs, hypocrisy,amf knowing that quoting all together along with cigarettes would bring me more peace and health than any level of habitual smoking. My anger and eagerness and willingness to snap was taken from me years ago, but by this idol worship(placing anything above the will of God) I knowingly reject this gift in a way by choosing to actively "remedy" myself, which is really just a cop out cuz its fn killing me. The last really obvious one that stands out prior to the act is masturbation, more specifically; viewing pornography. Though this may not be a sin unto death, it is still an addiction or a matter of greed. One need not relieve themselves as it is done by natural processes when not attended to. It is a thing of personal want and filth, and needless. It too is an addiction, a want of the flesh if you will. It is against what I should be doing, because I have an opportunity for things, and continuing in this particular sin, or any for that matter, negates said opportunity or effectively throws it out as if the will of God in my life is irrelevant.

Anyway that's a start. We can discuss them or others.

I ask that people don't mock me too much over these things I've listed. They are very real to me, and not just because they are listed in the book. Smoking and porn aren't even expressly mentioned in the bible. Hinted at though.

Now I want to discuss them.

Peace

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Masturbation is not a sin for fucks sake, it perfectly natural now I've read this I reckon this thread is double fucked up Facepalm Note to mods, you could make a fortune marketing this thread as a theme park for mediaeval Europe.
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05-08-2016, 04:34 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(04-08-2016 09:59 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 04:58 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  .. Wrote close, personal stuff....

Hug

Seriously? I hope where you are has good medicine that you can access.

Hug

Be well and wishing you all the very best.
That takes insurance or money.

Roughing it. My life story. Thanks for the wishing well though.

Peace

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