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05-08-2016, 04:39 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(05-08-2016 01:37 AM)adey67 Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 04:58 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I'll list the most apparent ones to start. Some are hard for me to put into words.

But the most obvious that I knowingly fight against or am aware of before I do them are smoking cigarettes; I have copd and approximately 50% lung capacity, maybe worse. It's been a few years since I've gotten a pulmonary function test, at which time they said my lungs were at 60% efficiency or whatever. Anyway; it's effectively killing me and destroying my temple or body. I know this yet continue. That is known sin. The second is much like the first. I justify smoking pot because it is an expectorant and keeps me calm. This is hypocritical though, as any smoke or dust or foreign thing that I breath in is very damaging to my wakened lungs. The temporary calm wears off and I can I will be on edge, ready to snap on any little thing. This is knowing sin for multiple reasons. Lungs, hypocrisy,amf knowing that quoting all together along with cigarettes would bring me more peace and health than any level of habitual smoking. My anger and eagerness and willingness to snap was taken from me years ago, but by this idol worship(placing anything above the will of God) I knowingly reject this gift in a way by choosing to actively "remedy" myself, which is really just a cop out cuz its fn killing me. The last really obvious one that stands out prior to the act is masturbation, more specifically; viewing pornography. Though this may not be a sin unto death, it is still an addiction or a matter of greed. One need not relieve themselves as it is done by natural processes when not attended to. It is a thing of personal want and filth, and needless. It too is an addiction, a want of the flesh if you will. It is against what I should be doing, because I have an opportunity for things, and continuing in this particular sin, or any for that matter, negates said opportunity or effectively throws it out as if the will of God in my life is irrelevant.

Anyway that's a start. We can discuss them or others.

I ask that people don't mock me too much over these things I've listed. They are very real to me, and not just because they are listed in the book. Smoking and porn aren't even expressly mentioned in the bible. Hinted at though.

Now I want to discuss them.

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Masturbation is not a sin for fucks sake, it perfectly natural now I've read this I reckon this thread is double fucked up Facepalm Note to mods, you could make a fortune marketing this thread as a theme park for mediaeval Europe.
What's natural is the body's ability to release uhm... pressure without us having to do it ourselves. It may not be a sin for all, but it is for me. Wow... Never thought I'd ever mention wet dreams on a forum... ever.

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05-08-2016, 04:43 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(04-08-2016 11:52 PM)Deesse23 Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 06:26 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Its hard to renounce smoking, Try prayer and try to smoke fewer and fewer cigarretes or cut from cigarrete little by little every week until you remain without need to smoke.

Yes its hard, but no god needed. How about taking some responsibility for your life and make decisions all for yourself? You know, decisions you will stick to?
When i decided to quit smoking, i.just.quit. The last open pack is still next to my TV (for several years now) and every day i can look with pride at it and say: done.

Give up your slave mentality and grow a backbone for fucks sake.
Who?

I don't have a slave mentality. I've quite other substances in the past. I don't expect God or any other to magically take away my desires, and understand that it must be something that I really want and something that I must do.

Many assume that faith is a crutch and perhaps tightly so in cases, but in my case and based on what can be read about our intended direction, we see to strive towards the things we know we are to do, not wait around for the outcomes we desire without putting in the effort.

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05-08-2016, 05:04 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(05-08-2016 04:39 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(05-08-2016 01:37 AM)adey67 Wrote:  Masturbation is not a sin for fucks sake, it perfectly natural now I've read this I reckon this thread is double fucked up Facepalm Note to mods, you could make a fortune marketing this thread as a theme park for mediaeval Europe.
What's natural is the body's ability to release uhm... pressure without us having to do it ourselves. It may not be a sin for all, but it is for me. Wow... Never thought I'd ever mention wet dreams on a forum... ever.

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Each to their own I guess.
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05-08-2016, 05:39 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(05-08-2016 01:37 AM)adey67 Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 04:58 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I'll list the most apparent ones to start. Some are hard for me to put into words.

But the most obvious that I knowingly fight against or am aware of before I do them are smoking cigarettes; I have copd and approximately 50% lung capacity, maybe worse. It's been a few years since I've gotten a pulmonary function test, at which time they said my lungs were at 60% efficiency or whatever. Anyway; it's effectively killing me and destroying my temple or body. I know this yet continue. That is known sin. The second is much like the first. I justify smoking pot because it is an expectorant and keeps me calm. This is hypocritical though, as any smoke or dust or foreign thing that I breath in is very damaging to my wakened lungs. The temporary calm wears off and I can I will be on edge, ready to snap on any little thing. This is knowing sin for multiple reasons. Lungs, hypocrisy,amf knowing that quoting all together along with cigarettes would bring me more peace and health than any level of habitual smoking. My anger and eagerness and willingness to snap was taken from me years ago, but by this idol worship(placing anything above the will of God) I knowingly reject this gift in a way by choosing to actively "remedy" myself, which is really just a cop out cuz its fn killing me. The last really obvious one that stands out prior to the act is masturbation, more specifically; viewing pornography. Though this may not be a sin unto death, it is still an addiction or a matter of greed. One need not relieve themselves as it is done by natural processes when not attended to. It is a thing of personal want and filth, and needless. It too is an addiction, a want of the flesh if you will. It is against what I should be doing, because I have an opportunity for things, and continuing in this particular sin, or any for that matter, negates said opportunity or effectively throws it out as if the will of God in my life is irrelevant.

Anyway that's a start. We can discuss them or others.

I ask that people don't mock me too much over these things I've listed. They are very real to me, and not just because they are listed in the book. Smoking and porn aren't even expressly mentioned in the bible. Hinted at though.

Now I want to discuss them.

Peace

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Masturbation is not a sin for fucks sake, it perfectly natural now I've read this I reckon this thread is double fucked up Facepalm Note to mods, you could make a fortune marketing this thread as a theme park for mediaeval Europe.

Like only medieval Europe needed Heaven. Jesus and Church will be forever for it is written the gates of Hell will never overcome the Church. Unless God decides otherwise.
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05-08-2016, 05:43 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(04-08-2016 09:05 AM)Astreja Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 06:21 AM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Anyhow at one time Arians were most numerous and powerfull and were proven wrong.

They weren't "proven wrong" -- They were essentially beaten up by the non-Arians.

I think you are all wrong and that your god is a fiction.

Astreja just for my curiosity. Are you into paranormal, pre christian religion beliefs.
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05-08-2016, 06:15 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(05-08-2016 05:39 AM)pasadi97 Wrote:  
(05-08-2016 01:37 AM)adey67 Wrote:  Masturbation is not a sin for fucks sake, it perfectly natural now I've read this I reckon this thread is double fucked up Facepalm Note to mods, you could make a fortune marketing this thread as a theme park for mediaeval Europe.

Like only medieval Europe needed Heaven. Jesus and Church will be forever for it is written the gates of Hell will never overcome the Church. Unless God decides otherwise.
Err yeah, you don't really do irony do you ? BTW you still haven't explained how god can be just and merciful while meeting out horrific eternal torture for what must necessarily be finite crimes try to do it with out recourse to that crazy book of yours if you can, the holy fable is seriously unimpressive to non believers.
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05-08-2016, 08:33 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(05-08-2016 04:43 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 11:52 PM)Deesse23 Wrote:  Yes its hard, but no god needed. How about taking some responsibility for your life and make decisions all for yourself? You know, decisions you will stick to?
When i decided to quit smoking, i.just.quit. The last open pack is still next to my TV (for several years now) and every day i can look with pride at it and say: done.

Give up your slave mentality and grow a backbone for fucks sake.
Who?

I don't have a slave mentality. I've quite other substances in the past. I don't expect God or any other to magically take away my desires, and understand that it must be something that I really want and something that I must do.

Many assume that faith is a crutch and perhaps tightly so in cases, but in my case and based on what can be read about our intended direction, we see to strive towards the things we know we are to do, not wait around for the outcomes we desire without putting in the effort.

Peace

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My post was directed at Pasadi, who thinks he/you need to worship a god if you wan tto quit smoking. You dont.

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05-08-2016, 09:13 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(05-08-2016 05:43 AM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Astreja just for my curiosity. Are you into paranormal, pre christian religion beliefs.

No, I am not a believer in anything paranormal -- at all. I believe all unusual phenomena without exception, including visions and so-called "miracles," to be either tricks of the brain or simply yet to be explained.

I do not believe in an immortal soul, an afterlife, karma, or reincarnation. I do not believe in gods, devils, angels, demons, ghosts, elves, faeries, pixies, sidhe, windigos, rakshasas, devas, or in fact any supernatural being from any time, place or religious tradition.

I consider the religious beliefs of My own ancestors (the Norse gods -- Oðinn, Thor, Loki and many others) to be mythology too. I would not testify in a court of law that any god was real. When I realized this, I became an agnostic atheist. I can easily use old myths for entertainment value and as inspiration without having to believe that they are real. I can also use modern fiction in exactly the same way, and in fact have done so.

One might also notice that My allegedly "divine" areas of influence (the Vernal Equinox, chocolate, punctuation, and Random Equipment Malfunctions) do not actually need a god to be in charge of them. I could literally vanish from the Earth tomorrow morning and everything that I am supposedly in charge of will continue to work (or not work, in the case of Random Equipment Malfunctions).
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05-08-2016, 09:15 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(05-08-2016 09:13 AM)Astreja Wrote:  
(05-08-2016 05:43 AM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Astreja just for my curiosity. Are you into paranormal, pre christian religion beliefs.

No, I am not a believer in anything paranormal -- at all. I believe all unusual phenomena without exception, including visions and so-called "miracles," to be either tricks of the brain or simply yet to be explained.

I do not believe in an immortal soul, an afterlife, karma, or reincarnation. I do not believe in gods, devils, angels, demons, ghosts, elves, faeries, pixies, sidhe, windigos, rakshasas, devas, or in fact any supernatural being from any time, place or religious tradition.

I consider the religious beliefs of My own ancestors (the Norse gods -- Oðinn, Thor, Loki and many others) to be mythology too. I would not testify in a court of law that any god was real. When I realized this, I became an agnostic atheist. I can easily use old myths for entertainment value and as inspiration without having to believe that they are real. I can also use modern fiction in exactly the same way, and in fact have done so.

One might also notice that My allegedly "divine" areas of influence (the Vernal Equinox, chocolate, punctuation, and Random Equipment Malfunctions) do not actually need a god to be in charge of them. I could literally vanish from the Earth tomorrow morning and everything that I am supposedly in charge of will continue to work (or not work, in the case of Random Equipment Malfunctions).

I think I could get on board with a god of chocolate. Thumbsup

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05-08-2016, 11:39 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(04-08-2016 06:26 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Pops. Pot can make holes ion brain and depending on pot the holes can be so big that one can put a finger through it destroying the person.

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(04-08-2016 06:26 PM)‘pasadi97 Wrote:  Wow I did not know you have the gift of tears. Many advanced people wanted this gift aqnd do not have it.

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