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06-08-2016, 06:19 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
Today I was able to pray for more than two hours straight. It was Gods hand. No sleepiness, no drowsiness, no distraction no nothing.It was like music. Why would God grant me this. I did not pray for it but I am very happy for this starting point. Hopefully would be more like this.
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06-08-2016, 06:25 AM
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(06-08-2016 06:10 AM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Prayer can soften heardened hearts.
St Augustine mother through prayer and tears softened her son heart making him a true Christian.. Her prayers softened the heart of her huisband to making him a believer and moving him to Heaven.

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St. Monica, Mother of Augustine of Hippo

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St. Monica, the mother of St. Augustine of Hippo, was born in 322 in Tagaste (located in modern-day Algeria). Her parents were Christians, but little is known of her early life. Most of the information about her comes from Book IX of her son’s “Confessions.”

St. Monica was married to a pagan official named Patritius, who had a short temper and lived an immoral life. At first, her mother-in-law did not like her, but Monica won her over by her gentle disposition. Unlike many women of that time, St. Monica was never beaten by her husband. She said that Patritius never raised his hand against her because she always held her tongue, setting a guard over her mouth in his presence.

St. Monica and Patritius had three children: St. Augustine, Navigius and Perpetua. It was a source of great pain that Patritius would not permit their children to be baptized. She worried about Augustine, who lived with a young woman in Carthage who bore him an illegitimate son. Her constant prayers and tears for her son had the effect of converting her husband to Christ before his death. Augustine, however, continued on the path that led him away from Christ.

While in Carthage, Augustine fell under the influence of the heretical Manichean sect. His mother was horrified and tried to turn him away from this cult. She was calmed after she had a dream in which she was told to be patient and gentle with her son. Augustine, however, paid little attention to her arguments, and remained with this sect for nine years. St. Monica felt disheartened and disappointed, but never gave up. She even tried to enlist the help of a bishop who had once been a Manichean himself, but he would not argue with Augustine. He told St. Monica said that he couldn’t reason with the young man because Augustine was still attracted by the novelty of the heresy. The bishop reassured her saying, “Go on your way, and God bless you, for it is not possible that the son of these tears should be lost.”

St. Monica went to Rome with Augustine when he was scheduled to lecture there in 383. Later, he received an appointment to Milan, where he met St. Ambrose and was greatly impressed by his preaching. Bishop Ambrose came to have a great deal of respect for St. Monica, and often congratulated Augustine on having such a virtuous mother.

While Augustine was reading the New Testament in the garden one day, he came to the passage of Paul’s Letter to the Romans at Chapter 13, Verses 12-14. Augustine immediately decided to “cast off the works of darkness,” and “put on the Lord Jesus Christ.” He was baptized on the eve of Pascha in 387.

After his baptism, Augustine and his mother planned to return to Africa. They stopped to rest in Ostia, where St/ Monica fell asleep in the Lord at the age of fifty-six. She was buried at Ostia, and her holy relics were transferred to the crypt of a church in the sixth century. Nine centuries later, St. Monica’s relics were translated to Rome.

In his book, “Confessions,” Augustine wrote about his reaction to his mother’s death: “If any one thinks it wrong that I thus wept for my mother some small part of an hour – a mother who for many years had wept for me that I might live to thee, O Lord – let him not deride me. But if his charity is great, let him weep also for my sins before thee.”

In the West, St. Monica is considered the patron saint of wives and mothers whose husbands or sons have gone astray.

There is no such thing as a "true Christian". Facepalm

I really wish there was a forum rule against asinine proselytizing, it does nothing but show how certain believers have a sense of entitlement when it comes to being annoying pricks. Thumbsup

Too bad we don't have a flip the bird emoticon.

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06-08-2016, 06:43 AM
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You still haven't answered my question so I'm guessing you cant but for the third time of asking..... How do you equate a benevolent loving deity with a deity that sends a person to horrific eternal torture for what must necessarily be finite crimes and how is that fair justice ? And please don't say we choose to go there or start quoting scripture I want to know how you have reconciled this in your mind.
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06-08-2016, 09:35 AM
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(06-08-2016 06:43 AM)adey67 Wrote:  You still haven't answered my question so I'm guessing you cant but for the third time of asking..... How do you equate a benevolent loving deity with a deity that sends a person to horrific eternal torture for what must necessarily be finite crimes and how is that fair justice ? And please don't say we choose to go there or start quoting scripture I want to know how you have reconciled this in your mind.

I have no answer to your question. It is not mine to answer. Anyhow Word of God from Book of Adam and Eve or Jesus died so you can go toi Heaven. Take advantage of this chance and go to Eastern Orthodoxy or Christian path.
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06-08-2016, 09:46 AM
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Story for Pop

There was a priest and there was a flood. The priest was in a tree praying to God to intervene and save him.
A boat came telling the priest to come and save himself. Priest said no God would save me. A helicopter came saying come and save yourself . The priest said no, God will save me. Some other attempts were made but the priest refused all of them and kept praying. He eventually died and went angry to God, why did you not save me since I prayed to you?
God told him I send a boat, a helicopter and I did many attempts to save you but you didn't take them.

You pray for God to guide you but because of hardened heart you are not able to move to Eastern Orthodoxy even if I told you that Bible said that Church is pillar of truith and even even if I demonstrated that Eastern Orthodox Church is the Church from Acts of Apostles.

I think you need to change the prayer from God please guide me to God move me to best denomination and religion in your eyes and save me since you are not able to react to guidance.
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06-08-2016, 10:22 AM
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(06-08-2016 06:43 AM)adey67 Wrote:  You still haven't answered my question so I'm guessing you cant but for the third time of asking..... How do you equate a benevolent loving deity with a deity that sends a person to horrific eternal torture for what must necessarily be finite crimes and how is that fair justice ? And please don't say we choose to go there or start quoting scripture I want to know how you have reconciled this in your mind.

Well this says everything really
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06-08-2016, 10:27 AM
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(06-08-2016 09:35 AM)pasadi97 Wrote:  
(06-08-2016 06:43 AM)adey67 Wrote:  You still haven't answered my question so I'm guessing you cant but for the third time of asking..... How do you equate a benevolent loving deity with a deity that sends a person to horrific eternal torture for what must necessarily be finite crimes and how is that fair justice ? And please don't say we choose to go there or start quoting scripture I want to know how you have reconciled this in your mind.

I have no answer to your question. It is not mine to answer. Anyhow Word of God from Book of Adam and Eve or Jesus died so you can go toi Heaven. Take advantage of this chance and go to Eastern Orthodoxy or Christian path.
Well this says everything really, what we have here is a trolling christian who cannot answer simple theological questions and is only interested in proselytising for the eastern orthodox church we desperately need the banhammer
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06-08-2016, 10:52 AM
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(06-08-2016 06:25 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  I really wish there was a forum rule against asinine proselytizing, it does nothing but show how certain believers have a sense of entitlement when it comes to being annoying pricks. Thumbsup

The fuck's wrong with you? They provide me with endless amusement in the Robert Louis Stevenson style.

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06-08-2016, 10:59 AM
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(06-08-2016 10:52 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(06-08-2016 06:25 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  I really wish there was a forum rule against asinine proselytizing, it does nothing but show how certain believers have a sense of entitlement when it comes to being annoying pricks. Thumbsup

The fuck's wrong with you? They provide me with endless amusement in the Robert Louis Stevenson style.
While being infuriatingly annoying to us normal folksBig Grin Laugh out load
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06-08-2016, 11:17 AM
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(05-08-2016 01:12 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(05-08-2016 01:09 PM)julep Wrote:  Instead of the Lord's Supper, we could have the Lord's Dessert Bar. Drooling I'm in!

Maybe communion could be Thin Mints and hot chocolate. Drooling

Junior Mints would even be better. Who doesn't like a Junior Mint.

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He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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