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09-08-2016, 06:43 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(08-08-2016 06:51 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Thank you for explaining what poe is.
You are very smart guys and it is a pleasure to speak with you.

Anyhow we must agree that macroevolution was not proven yet. They tried to see what happens over millions of years of age by experimenting of flies that had a very small lifespan.

They experimented with these flies simulating probably millions of years . They had many generation. They radiated them, warmed them and after so many generations do you think they obtained anythiong than flies? No they obtained flies. They've got more [pairs of wings, smaller, larger so forth but they were flies.

Also in evolution NDE has no reason if evolution is true. Also NDE is not brain activity. People in NDE saw body from above, they saw what happened in three rooms distance, they saw what was on the roof and people with soul vision see soul departing body at death.

In the end we can agree to disagree. But unfortunately you have to get things right because there is a stiff penalty if you get it wrong, Hell.
Where'd you get such a silly notion. Those who follow the trends of given scientific evidence and use their given critical thinking will be rewarded by the deities in death. You got some backwards notions

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09-08-2016, 06:53 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
pasadi97,

What do you think about this in general?

Arise, O wayfarer in the path of the Love of God, and aid thou His Cause. Say: Barter not away this Youth, O people, for the vanities of this world or the delights of heaven. By the righteousness of the one true God! One hair of Him excelleth all that is in the heavens and all that is on the earth. Beware, O men, lest ye be tempted to part with Him in exchange for the gold and silver ye possess. Let His love be a storehouse of treasure for your souls, on the Day when naught else but Him shall profit you, the Day when every pillar shall tremble, when the very skins of men shall creep, when all eyes shall stare up with terror. Say: O people! Fear ye God, and turn not away disdainfully from His Revelation. Fall prostrate on your faces before God, and celebrate His praise in the daytime and in the night season.

Let thy soul glow with the flame of this undying Fire that burneth in the midmost heart of the world, in such wise that the waters of the universe shall be powerless to cool down its ardor. Make, then, mention of thy Lord, that haply the heedless among Our servants may be admonished through thy words, and the hearts of the righteous be gladdened.

XVISay: O men! This is a matchless Day. Matchless must, likewise, be the tongue that celebrateth the praise of the Desire of all nations, and matchless the deed that aspireth to be acceptable in His sight. The whole human race hath longed for this Day, that perchance it may fulfill that which well beseemeth its station, and is worthy of its destiny. Blessed is the man whom the affairs of the world have failed to deter from recognizing Him Who is the Lord of all things.

In regard to what thou hast written concerning his honour the learned Sáhib, upon him be the grace of God, his state of mind and disposition are clear and evident, as is further attested by that which he hath sent. Now, as to his questions, it was not deemed advisable to refer and reply to each one individually, for the response would have run counter to wisdom and been incompatible with that which is current amongst men. Even so, in that which was revealed in his honour from the heaven of divine favour, answers were provided in a language of marvellous concision and clarity. But it appeareth that he hath failed to consider the matter closely, for otherwise he would have readily admitted that not a single point was omitted, and would have exclaimed: “This is naught but a clear and conclusive utterance!” His questions were the following.

First: “The Prophets of Mahábád, together with Zoroaster, were twenty-eight in number. Each one of them sought to exalt, rather than abrogate, the faith and religion of the others. Each one that appeared bore witness to the truth and veracity of the former law and religion and breathed no word about abolishing them. Each declared: ‘We are the bearers of a Revelation from God, which We deliver unto His servants.’ Some of the Hindu Prophets, however, have declared: ‘We are God Himself, and it is incumbent upon the entire creation to bear allegiance unto Us. Whensoever conflict and dissension appear amongst men, We arise to quench it.’ Each one that appeared announced: ‘I am the same One that appeared in the beginning.’ The latter Prophets such as David, Abraham, Moses and Jesus confirmed the truth of the Prophets gone before them, but said: ‘Such was the law in the past, but in this day the law is that which I proclaim.’ The Arabian Prophet, however, hath said: ‘Through My appearance every law hath proven to be unsound and no law holdeth but Mine.’ Which of these creeds is acceptable and which of these leaders is to be preferred?”

It should first be noted that in one sense the stations of the Prophets of God differ one from another. For instance, consider Moses. He brought forth a Book and established ordinances, whilst a number of the Prophets and Messengers who arose after Him were charged with the promulgation of His laws, insofar as they remained consonant with the needs of the age. The books and chronicles annexed to the Torah bear eloquent testimony to this truth.

Regarding the statement ascribed to the Author of the Qur’án: “Through My appearance every law and religion hath proven to be unsound and no law holdeth but Mine”, no such words were ever uttered by that Source and Fount of divine wisdom. Nay rather, He confirmed that which had been sent down before from the empyrean of the Divine Will unto the Prophets and Messengers of God. He saith, exalted be His utterance: “Alif. Lám. Mím. God! There is no God but Him, the Living, the Ever-Abiding. He it is Who hath sent down to Thee the Book through the power of truth, confirming those which preceded it. He revealed aforetime the Torah and the Evangel as a guidance unto men, and He hath now revealed the Qur’án….” He, moreover, hath asserted that all the Prophets have proceeded from God and have returned unto Him. Viewed in this light, they are all as one and the same Being, inasmuch as they have not uttered a word, brought a message, or revealed a cause, of their own accord. Nay, all that they have said hath proceeded from the one true God, exalted be His glory. They have all summoned men unto the Supreme Horizon and imparted the tidings of eternal life. Thus the diverse statements recounted by his honour the Sáhib are to be seen as concordant letters, that is, letters that form a single word.


It's very close to what I believe and believed before ever reading it. Or any other text really.

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09-08-2016, 06:55 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(09-08-2016 06:43 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  
(08-08-2016 06:51 PM)pasadi97 Wrote:  Thank you for explaining what poe is.
You are very smart guys and it is a pleasure to speak with you.

Anyhow we must agree that macroevolution was not proven yet. They tried to see what happens over millions of years of age by experimenting of flies that had a very small lifespan.

They experimented with these flies simulating probably millions of years . They had many generation. They radiated them, warmed them and after so many generations do you think they obtained anythiong than flies? No they obtained flies. They've got more [pairs of wings, smaller, larger so forth but they were flies.

Also in evolution NDE has no reason if evolution is true. Also NDE is not brain activity. People in NDE saw body from above, they saw what happened in three rooms distance, they saw what was on the roof and people with soul vision see soul departing body at death.

In the end we can agree to disagree. But unfortunately you have to get things right because there is a stiff penalty if you get it wrong, Hell.
Where'd you get such a silly notion. Those who follow the trends of given scientific evidence and use their given critical thinking will be rewarded by the deities in death. You got some backwards notions


All orthodox ideas are backwards.

What's the deal with grapefruit? Grapes are tiny and I've never had grapefruit wine?

Someone screwed up.

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09-08-2016, 08:27 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(09-08-2016 06:55 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(09-08-2016 06:43 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Where'd you get such a silly notion. Those who follow the trends of given scientific evidence and use their given critical thinking will be rewarded by the deities in death. You got some backwards notions


All orthodox ideas are backwards.

What's the deal with grapefruit? Grapes are tiny and I've never had grapefruit wine?

Someone screwed up.
There's a lot of pectin in citrus and without enzymes to dissolve the pectin making good wine is hard. Its a shame that there is no enzyme to dissolve the batshit crazy in this thread. Weeping
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09-08-2016, 09:02 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(09-08-2016 05:01 AM)Banjo Wrote:  I like rhubarb.

Yes, but can you make wine out of rhubarb? This needs to be answered quickly. I'm having a huge garden party this Sunday with about 28 people and need some quick ideas. Tongue

I think I'll have a huge tray of cheese. Something like this but bigger.

[Image: 6a00d8358081ff69e2017615efec44970c-800wi]

Then my husband is going to make Frogmore stew.

[Image: 54ccc6272c82a_-_esq-frogmore-stew-0812-mdn.jpg]

And a bunch of other foods. BBQ chicken and other stuff.

I know this has nothing to do with this thread but at this point I don't give a shit. I'm sick of reading the fairytale -brained spillage from these two delusional, brainwashed nut cases.

CHEEEEEEESE! Big Grin

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Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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09-08-2016, 09:14 AM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(09-08-2016 09:02 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(09-08-2016 05:01 AM)Banjo Wrote:  I like rhubarb.

Yes, but can you make wine out of rhubarb? This needs to be answered quickly. I'm having a huge garden party this Sunday with about 28 people and need some quick ideas. Tongue

I think I'll have a huge tray of cheese. Something like this but bigger.

[Image: 6a00d8358081ff69e2017615efec44970c-800wi]

Then my husband is going to make Frogmore stew.

[Image: 54ccc6272c82a_-_esq-frogmore-stew-0812-mdn.jpg]

And a bunch of other foods. BBQ chicken and other stuff.

I know this has nothing to do with this thread but at this point I don't give a shit. I'm sick of reading the fairytale -brained spillage from these two delusional, brainwashed nut cases.

CHEEEEEEESE! Big Grin

Yup, agreed which is why we are trying to derail this bonkers crap Laugh out load BTW you don't have time to make rhubarb wine, get them pissed on vodka cocktails and beer Big Grin
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09-08-2016, 12:17 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(09-08-2016 09:14 AM)adey67 Wrote:  
(09-08-2016 09:02 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Yes, but can you make wine out of rhubarb? This needs to be answered quickly. I'm having a huge garden party this Sunday with about 28 people and need some quick ideas. Tongue

I think I'll have a huge tray of cheese. Something like this but bigger.

[Image: 6a00d8358081ff69e2017615efec44970c-800wi]

Then my husband is going to make Frogmore stew.

[Image: 54ccc6272c82a_-_esq-frogmore-stew-0812-mdn.jpg]

And a bunch of other foods. BBQ chicken and other stuff.

I know this has nothing to do with this thread but at this point I don't give a shit. I'm sick of reading the fairytale -brained spillage from these two delusional, brainwashed nut cases.

CHEEEEEEESE! Big Grin

Yup, agreed which is why we are trying to derail this bonkers crap Laugh out load BTW you don't have time to make rhubarb wine, get them pissed on vodka cocktails and beer Big Grin

Pops and Pasadi's ongoing conversation is the very reason I slam the door in theists faces that come knocking on my door. If you just converse with them the tiniest bit they then think it's ok to go on and on and on and they never shut up.

So Vodka, beer and cheese it is!

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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09-08-2016, 12:27 PM (This post was last modified: 09-08-2016 12:32 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(09-08-2016 12:17 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(09-08-2016 09:14 AM)adey67 Wrote:  Yup, agreed which is why we are trying to derail this bonkers crap Laugh out load BTW you don't have time to make rhubarb wine, get them pissed on vodka cocktails and beer Big Grin

Pops and Pasadi's ongoing conversation is the very reason I slam the door in theists faces that come knocking on my door. If you just converse with them the tiniest bit they then think it's ok to go on and on and on and they never shut up.

So Vodka, beer and cheese it is!

I can see by your coat, my friend you've never been institutionalized. But vodka, beer and cheese it is!

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09-08-2016, 01:50 PM
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Hasn't this thread been relegated to the casual section? Who is it hurting for us to conversate about anything whatsoever. Moreover; if y'all want to talk about cheese and alcohol then what's it hurting?

I've never even witnessed a door knocking theist before. Guess it would help to have a house though...



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09-08-2016, 02:00 PM
RE: Christianity for busy thinking people
(09-08-2016 01:50 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I've never even witnessed a door knocking theist before. Guess it would help to have a house though...

If I hadn't already repped you I'd give you one for that. Big Grin

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