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08-02-2014, 05:33 PM
RE: Christians now say "atheists" are "targeting kids"
Mark Fulton, I agree, it would be nice for there to be a good place for kids who have doubts to go online, but they would have to be sneaky, like I was with porn when I was 13.


(08-02-2014 05:10 PM)WindyCityJazz Wrote:  
(08-02-2014 03:00 PM)mrlmichael Wrote:  Christians have a persecution complex, simple as that. Seriously, how many Christians do you think there are in the world, that when their kids are born, they decide, "You know what, I am not going to teach my child about god and religion, and instead let him decide for himself when he reaches a mature enough age to do so."? Obviously, pretty much none. Parents and role models and teachers indoctrinate their children with religion from an early age, because they know if they don't, they won't buy it. However, they somehow see teaching science, you know, that real science stuff in that one class called science class, as atheist trying to get to their children. Simply put, these people are absolutely delusional.

Agreed. I always find the Christian persecution complex so laughable for two reasons:

1. To them, being persecuted means not allowing them to force their beliefs on everybody else.

2. They've been persecuting the entire world for nearly 2,000 years now.

100% agree. There is a difference between being legitimately persecuted, and being a whiny brat because you are not getting your way. There is no doubt, that they have done the majority of the persecuting in the last 2,000 years.
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08-02-2014, 06:23 PM
RE: Christians now say "atheists" are "targeting kids"
(08-02-2014 05:10 PM)WindyCityJazz Wrote:  Agreed. I always find the Christian persecution complex so laughable for two reasons:

1. To them, being persecuted means not allowing them to force their beliefs on everybody else.

2. They've been persecuting the entire world for nearly 2,000 years now.

Laughable and infuriating. The persecution complex is so irritating that it's a self-fullfilling prophecy.
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08-02-2014, 06:23 PM
RE: Christians now say "atheists" are "targeting kids"
I cringe when I think of what I taught my kids before I figured out there is no God. Fortunately they were young enough to recover. Weird how I feel a need to 'witness' to kids now, to save them from a lifetime of guilt and ignorance.
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08-02-2014, 10:41 PM
RE: Christians now say "atheists" are "targeting kids"
Interesting.

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08-02-2014, 11:00 PM
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(08-02-2014 09:42 AM)Alex_Leonardo Wrote:  
(08-02-2014 03:50 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  I wouldn't use IQ, that's a meaningless test. I'd look for what ages children start to question their authority figures. I'm guessing that would be 13 upwards. Send them just as soon as they start their rebellious phrase.

And just to top it off, send them to a church which expects the children to dress in suits and smart clothes. They'll hate that.

I deconverted at 9, just letting you know.

At about that age I was reading through the holey babble and going HolyShitWTF.

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08-02-2014, 11:50 PM
RE: Christians now say "atheists" are "targeting kids"
Although I do think my positions are correct, regarding the nonexistence...or at least irrelevance, of any god thingies, it still seems to me to be bad form to target kids. These kids still have to live with their families. That said, I don't think childhood is a binary state that ends on the 18th birthday. Children transition from kids to adults starting around age 12 or so, and so an appropriate level of 'targetting', depending on age, is ok.

That said, if you find out some fuck is targetting *your* kids, then *their* kids are fair targets, no matter their age.

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09-02-2014, 09:19 AM
RE: Christians now say "atheists" are "targeting kids"
The problem here is the definition of targeting kids. Teaching real science in science class is not targeting your kids, its ignoring your fairy tail version of creation in a public school that is supposed to teach verifiable facts. I also don't have a problem with introducing doubt and reason with kids. You don't have to come out and say, stop believing what your mom taught you, but introduce doubt and logical thinking into their life so they are more likely to decide later in life what mom taught them doesn't make sense.
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09-02-2014, 09:37 PM
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(09-02-2014 09:19 AM)mrlmichael Wrote:  The problem here is the definition of targeting kids. Teaching real science in science class is not targeting your kids, its ignoring your fairy tail version of creation in a public school that is supposed to teach verifiable facts. I also don't have a problem with introducing doubt and reason with kids. You don't have to come out and say, stop believing what your mom taught you, but introduce doubt and logical thinking into their life so they are more likely to decide later in life what mom taught them doesn't make sense.

Agreed. But this is typical of xtards, to claim that we are somehow pulling precisely the sort of underhanded shit that THEY are actually doing.

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10-02-2014, 01:21 AM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2014 01:24 AM by rampant.a.i..)
Christians now say "atheists" are "targeting kids"
(08-02-2014 05:10 PM)WindyCityJazz Wrote:  
(08-02-2014 03:00 PM)mrlmichael Wrote:  Christians have a persecution complex, simple as that. Seriously, how many Christians do you think there are in the world, that when their kids are born, they decide, "You know what, I am not going to teach my child about god and religion, and instead let him decide for himself when he reaches a mature enough age to do so."? Obviously, pretty much none. Parents and role models and teachers indoctrinate their children with religion from an early age, because they know if they don't, they won't buy it. However, they somehow see teaching science, you know, that real science stuff in that one class called science class, as atheist trying to get to their children. Simply put, these people are absolutely delusional.

Agreed. I always find the Christian persecution complex so laughable for two reasons:

1. To them, being persecuted means not allowing them to force their beliefs on everybody else.

2. They've been persecuting the entire world for nearly 2,000 years now.

And here's the Crux of it. How many societies have Missionaries destroyed in the name of "spreading Christianity" to the masses?

Indoctrinating children into a worldview where they are damned by "original sin" is developmentally disabling. No wonder so many Christians have a persecution complex: Out of profound guilt for being born.

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10-02-2014, 08:32 AM
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(09-02-2014 09:37 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Agreed. But this is typical of xtards, to claim that we are somehow pulling precisely the sort of underhanded shit that THEY are actually doing.

Transference?
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