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20-11-2016, 06:43 AM
Christians who voted for trump
Interesting article here: http://www.salon.com/2016/11/19/jesus-we...ald-trump/

My brother-in-law is a middle of the road Christian who believes in evolution, gay rights and who didn't vote for trump. Thinks he's a complete nutjob. I haven't seen any statistics on which denominations voted for who and I don't know if that information is available yet. Even without that information there might be a divide happening between the mainstream churches and the far right believers over trumps election. A section from the article:

It helps to maintain awareness that even among us huggy, lovey, Jesus-y types, resistance is afoot. In The Washington Post, Sarah Pulliam Bailey reported on a deepening divide within the evangelical Christian community, exacerbated by the election. She quoted Eugene Cho, the pastor of an evangelical church in Seattle: “The election has made things more hostile or given permission to people to be more aggressive on both sides.”

She also reported that Cho, who pledged to never endorse a candidate from the pulpit, joined a group of evangelicals who condemning Trump, arguing that his campaign “affirms racist elements in white culture.” The letter, which was also backed by about 80 other pastors and faith leaders, Pulliam wrote, “decried Trump’s comments on women, Muslims, immigrants, refugees and the disabled.”

Some evangelicals, disheartened by the strong turnout for Trump among their purported fellow believers, are prepared to jump ship entirely. Writer and activist Preston Yancey tweeted on election night: “So I guess I’m not an evangelical. Because I’m not whatever the hell this is.”


I would like to think that some Christians, like my brother in law, aren't totally out to lunch.

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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20-11-2016, 11:53 AM
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"Affirms racist elements in white culture" pretty much sums it up. No characterization, no good or bad, just affirmation of what we all already knew. Guess that in and of itself could be seen as a useful thing.

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20-11-2016, 01:18 PM (This post was last modified: 20-11-2016 01:21 PM by Lord Dark Helmet.)
RE: Christians who voted for trump
(20-11-2016 11:53 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  "Affirms racist elements in white culture" pretty much sums it up. No characterization, no good or bad, just affirmation of what we all already knew. Guess that in and of itself could be seen as a useful thing.

And this is why democrats are losing all across the country since the day Obama was inaugurated. Any opposition to Obama was labeled racist. It couldn't be that people were against his far left policies. And Trump and his supporters are being called racist for being against illegal immigration and Syrian refugees. The race card is over played. A few knucklehead racists on the far right are not representative of all republicans. The good thing is that small groups on the left are now being associated with democrats. Socialism, gangster culture, flag burning anti americanism are now recognized as democratic party traits. People see those traits and are staying home on election day or voting for republicans.

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20-11-2016, 01:26 PM
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I honestly think abortion was a much bigger voting issue than people realized, especially so for christians and evangelicals. I am not saying racism isn't a huge problem, but I think he got a large percentage of religious votes for the sheer fact that Pence is so anti-abortion and trump will likely appoint conservative judges.

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20-11-2016, 01:29 PM
RE: Christians who voted for trump
(20-11-2016 01:18 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(20-11-2016 11:53 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  "Affirms racist elements in white culture" pretty much sums it up. No characterization, no good or bad, just affirmation of what we all already knew. Guess that in and of itself could be seen as a useful thing.

And this is why democrats are losing all across the country since the day Obama was inaugurated. Any opposition to Obama was labeled racist. It couldn't be that people were against his far left policies. And Trump and his supporters are being called racist for being against illegal immigration and Syrian refugees. The race card is over played. A few knucklehead racists on the far right are not representative of all republicans. The good thing is that small groups on the left are now being associated with democrats. Socialism, gangster culture, flag burning anti americanism are now recognized as democratic party traits. People see those traits and are staying home on election day or voting for republicans.

Actually the thread started by tomilay today answered many of the questions for me along with his link to the Time article.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...angelicals

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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20-11-2016, 02:41 PM (This post was last modified: 20-11-2016 02:49 PM by GirlyMan.)
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(20-11-2016 01:18 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Socialism, gangster culture, flag burning anti americanism are now recognized as democratic party traits.

Next thing you know they'll be trying to seize public property and shit.

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20-11-2016, 03:07 PM
RE: Christians who voted for trump
(20-11-2016 01:18 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(20-11-2016 11:53 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  "Affirms racist elements in white culture" pretty much sums it up. No characterization, no good or bad, just affirmation of what we all already knew. Guess that in and of itself could be seen as a useful thing.

And this is why democrats are losing all across the country since the day Obama was inaugurated. Any opposition to Obama was labeled racist.

It didn't help much when Trump himself suggested Obama wasn't a U.S. citizen. I wonder what that was based on?
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20-11-2016, 03:18 PM
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(20-11-2016 01:18 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(20-11-2016 11:53 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  "Affirms racist elements in white culture" pretty much sums it up. No characterization, no good or bad, just affirmation of what we all already knew. Guess that in and of itself could be seen as a useful thing.

And this is why democrats are losing all across the country since the day Obama was inaugurated. Any opposition to Obama was labeled racist. It couldn't be that people were against his far left policies. And Trump and his supporters are being called racist for being against illegal immigration and Syrian refugees. The race card is over played. A few knucklehead racists on the far right are not representative of all republicans. The good thing is that small groups on the left are now being associated with democrats. Socialism, gangster culture, flag burning anti americanism are now recognized as democratic party traits. People see those traits and are staying home on election day or voting for republicans.
Donating non radical ideals as FAR left or right is more overplayed too.

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20-11-2016, 05:35 PM
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(20-11-2016 01:18 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  ...Obama...It couldn't be that people were against his far left policies.

Laugh out load

Only in 'Murica. The rest of the world considers Obama middle-of-the-road, if not conservative, and people like Cruz and Pence far-right wackos. I don't know how they feel about Trump, but it's telling that America is so far right these days that people in the middle can be called "far left" with a straight face.
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20-11-2016, 05:51 PM
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(20-11-2016 05:35 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  
(20-11-2016 01:18 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  ...Obama...It couldn't be that people were against his far left policies.

Laugh out load

Only in 'Murica. The rest of the world considers Obama middle-of-the-road, if not conservative, and people like Cruz and Pence far-right wackos. I don't know how they feel about Trump, but it's telling that America is so far right these days that people in the middle can be called "far left" with a straight face.

Yes, it is scary. It scares the shit out of our allies too.

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