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09-11-2011, 07:09 PM
RE: Christmas and Atheism
(09-11-2011 06:55 PM)lucradis Wrote:  Yes Girlyman Presentree is nearly identical to Christmas. I have no shame about it. Theft can be a beautiful thing when done correctly. See I love some of the things associated with the already pilfered holiday currently known as Christmas so I fuckin stole them. Taste of their own medicine really. Plus one of he rules for my holiday is to ignore all previous diets in favor of gluttony. Get fat for presentree because if you don't you aren't doing it right.

Ah, I think I can do something with that. I'll make it 7 days long celebrating a different deadly sin on each day. Big Grin

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09-11-2011, 08:02 PM
RE: Christmas and Atheism
I like christmas as it breaks the year up......part of me thinks its hipocritical as the meaning is obviously religious. However the meaning to me was never centered around religion as I grew up in an atheist family.....it was more centered around getting all the family together and having a good day....obv I looked forward to presents but TBH it wasnt all about that.

I only buy presents for my nieces and nephews now.........if I ever have kids then I would buy them presents but I wouldnt go mad nor would I get into debt like a lot of people do over it.

So to me the meaning of christmas is about family.

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09-11-2011, 08:11 PM
RE: Christmas and Atheism
(09-11-2011 07:09 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(09-11-2011 06:55 PM)lucradis Wrote:  Yes Girlyman Presentree is nearly identical to Christmas. I have no shame about it. Theft can be a beautiful thing when done correctly. See I love some of the things associated with the already pilfered holiday currently known as Christmas so I fuckin stole them. Taste of their own medicine really. Plus one of he rules for my holiday is to ignore all previous diets in favor of gluttony. Get fat for presentree because if you don't you aren't doing it right.

Ah, I think I can do something with that. I'll make it 7 days long celebrating a different deadly sin on each day. Big Grin

I like that. It's like a mix of Christmas an hanukkah and now presentree too! Hey wait a minute you bastard that last one is mine. Just kidding. It's good to get Ito the spirit of the holiday so steal away!!!

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09-11-2011, 09:02 PM
RE: Christmas and Atheism
When I was a child we celebrated Xmas but never religiously (bad pun). It was more about the Father Xmas/Santa Claus thing.
These days it's just about the holiday, of which I'm happy to take as we don't get that many of them, and definitely about the lights. I love lights, maybe that's one of the reasons I love astronomy so much (stars, galaxies etc...) and fireworks too.
I did the Santa Claus thing when my son was young but now he's grown up (he's also an atheist) so we just do the present thing (it's a good excuse) and have some good food/wine.
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09-11-2011, 09:37 PM
RE: Christmas and Atheism
(09-11-2011 07:09 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Ah, I think I can do something with that. I'll make it 7 days long celebrating a different deadly sin on each day. Big Grin

Cheers!!! alright... where's my bottle of vodka? .... er.. rum yeah Rummm...

bah fuggit,... Russians are cool too along with them pirates!

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09-11-2011, 09:45 PM
RE: Christmas and Atheism
Man, it ain't about nothing but pandering to the needs of your capitalist masters you fucking slaves!


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12-11-2011, 01:43 AM
RE: Christmas and Atheism
Christmas for me is, and almost always has been, a time for family and good food....especially the rum and eggnog.

The deeper I'm delving into my atheism though, I'm starting to find things like nativity scenes in stores and even Christmas carols quite irritating. It's a shame, I used to LOVE Christmas carols, but I always sang them as a child with complete ignorance for the lyrics and just the spirit of the season. I love music. My favorite used to be 'O Holy Night' and now I can't sing it because I can't even stand the thought of the lyrics coming out of my mouth.

I guess I have to stick to the pop-crap classics like 'Last Christmas' by Wham. Shrug.
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12-11-2011, 11:56 AM
RE: Christmas and Atheism
I would have no problem celebrating a pagan-Christian holiday, 'cause like Ghost said, it's just a part of the culture here. My immediate family is non-religious, so we've never set up a Nativity Scene (took me forever to learn what that was all about) or talked about the birth of Jesus or any of that nonsense. It was just about Santa Claus, presents, food, being lazy, and spending the day with family.

The problem that I have is the fact that as soon as the Halloween stuff goes down, Christmas stuff goes up. In the beginning of fucking November! Having Christmas stuff shoved into my face for almost two full months before the actual winter holidays begins means that by the time Christmas does roll around, I'm already sick of it and just want it to be over.

Don't get me wrong, I love going to my parents' place for the holidays and seeing family and eating good food, but I hate the crass commercialism of it all o.0 I'm really like my mom that way - she's always trying to convince her sisters to get all the family together to go on a skiing trip instead of buying presents, but nobody else seems to want to do that Sad So my mom and I usually ask for practical presents, stuff that we would need or buy for ourselves anyway Tongue

Edit: Oh, yes and eggnog! Except that I can't drink real eggnog, so yay for soy eggnog... tastes okay, but not nearly as good as the real stuff... Sad

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12-11-2011, 12:10 PM
RE: Christmas and Atheism
Not to criticize anyone but I find the anti commercialization sentiment in relation to Christmas as sort of funny. If not for the commercialization the only things left are the religious ones. Without commercialization there is no need for Santa or even really a Christmas tree. It would all be nativity scenes and praying. Thanks to our love of greed Christians were forced to steal things from other cultures to make their made up holiday blend better. Make the pill easier to swallow.
I know I know there would still be the good cheer and family junk probably but wouldn't it just feel like thanksgiving? You know with baby Jesus.
I love getting presents. I have no shame in this. Presents are fucking great. I don't care what try are whether home made or store bought. The more thought put into it the better. I love givin presents even more. The joy on someone's face when they get a new toy is fantastic and I'm greedy for it. I'm all for the commercialization of Christmas for that reason and for the reason of its stealing the power that religion wants it to have!
What I will agree on is that one holiday at a time is plenty. I hate seeing Christmas shit up at stores or people's houses before Halloween has even come and gone. ( might be biased as I love Halloween most of all!! ) the thanksgiving thing isn't a big deal over here in Canada eh as it comes before Halloween instead of after.

What I'm trying to say is Viva la presents!!!

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12-11-2011, 02:00 PM
RE: Christmas and Atheism
Are you laughing at me, clown?!?! Angry

I do it alla time. Big Grin

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