Church of England set for zero growth for next 30 years
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18-02-2016, 09:19 AM
Church of England set for zero growth for next 30 years
And that's being optimistic!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion...ts.html?=1

Is it any wonder why the state church clings so fiercely to its privileges, including control of so many of our publicly funded schools?

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18-02-2016, 10:03 AM
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(18-02-2016 09:19 AM)Silly Deity Wrote:  And that's being optimistic!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion...ts.html?=1

Is it any wonder why the state church clings so fiercely to its privileges, including control of so many of our publicly funded schools?

Maybe what they need to do is go full-on anti-Islam, move their school curriculum to an anti-terrorist agenda, and fund some paramilitary groups.
Y'know, take a page from the Catholic Church's playbook that worked so well in Ireland. Consider

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18-02-2016, 10:15 AM
RE: Church of England set for zero growth for next 30 years
They could try praying ...

Edit: OK I was joking but this is exactly what they said

Quote:"Should we simply accept that we will not have ministers of the right quality and background and therefore accept that retreat is inevitable?

"Of course not. We need to steadily, faithfully pray and work to call workers to the harvest. "
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18-02-2016, 11:05 AM
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(18-02-2016 10:03 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(18-02-2016 09:19 AM)Silly Deity Wrote:  And that's being optimistic!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion...ts.html?=1

Is it any wonder why the state church clings so fiercely to its privileges, including control of so many of our publicly funded schools?

Maybe what they need to do is go full-on anti-Islam, move their school curriculum to an anti-terrorist agenda, and fund some paramilitary groups.
Y'know, take a page from the Catholic Church's playbook that worked so well in Ireland. Consider

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18-02-2016, 11:08 AM
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18-02-2016, 11:11 AM
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What is remarkable is that they appear to think that by recruiting some younger clergy they'll be able to relate to youngsters and turn things around in 30 years time.

I've yet to meet a "young" clergyman - and by that I mean anyone under 40 - who has the slightest idea of being credible to teenagers or anyone in their 20's. They are mostly deeply dull, deeply earnest and desperately naive.

Of course in 30 years time those new "with-it" priests will be in their 50s and 60s.

I think we can see where this is going.

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18-02-2016, 11:35 AM
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There's a part of me that's kinda conflicted about this:
Church of England is definitely one of the more harmless Protestant churches: charitable, progressive, not very political, no longer very proselytizing etc.
It's the kind of religion I can live with.
If they are losing younger members because the youngsters are turning atheist, great!
I just hope that they aren't losing younger members to more hardline churches, 'cause that would be worse.
Ideally, I would love to see the CoE gain members from the hardliners, and then quietly fizzle away ...

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18-02-2016, 05:22 PM
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It's funny, I've been seeing commercials lately begging people to come back to the church. They know they're in trouble!! Laughat

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18-02-2016, 05:50 PM
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Could you guys in the UK send us folks on the other side of the pond a few pints of whatever it is you are doing right?

OTOH, my take is that being deeply religious may be hereditary, and all the really crazy ones went to the proto-US and spawned. This would have left fewer of the religious crazies in Europe. Just a thought? Probably not true, but it makes for a good story.
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18-02-2016, 05:55 PM
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(18-02-2016 11:35 AM)Reducetarian Wrote:  There's a part of me that's kinda conflicted about this:
Church of England is definitely one of the more harmless Protestant churches: charitable, progressive, not very political, no longer very proselytizing etc.
It's the kind of religion I can live with.
If they are losing younger members because the youngsters are turning atheist, great!
I just hope that they aren't losing younger members to more hardline churches, 'cause that would be worse.
Ideally, I would love to see the CoE gain members from the hardliners, and then quietly fizzle away ...

I think it's the moderates that are leaving the church. They don't much care one way or another and now the pressure to participate s waning they are dropping out. Which only leaves the more extremists to make up the majority. Not a good thing at all.

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