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30-03-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: Claim: God has now been proofed through science
(30-03-2017 11:14 AM)Heath_Tierney Wrote:  
(30-03-2017 10:51 AM)Alla Wrote:  I didn't watch the video but I can say that there is no any scientific proof of God.
All the attempts to prove God's existence are waste of time.
Why would someone even wanted to prove God's existence? This knowledge would be absolutely useless.
We wouldn't be able to apply this knowledge in any way.
Then, why bother and try to prove God's existence?

If the existence of a divine superintelligence could be proven (or disproven - a scientific impossibility) it would go a long, long way in reducing or eliminating religious-based wars and violent ideologues. Far from being useless, it would be the second-most important discovery in the history of the human race (the first being the existence of life, of whatever kind, on other planets).

how would we apply this knowledge?
let's say we already know - God exists. what is next?

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30-03-2017, 11:34 AM
RE: Claim: God has now been proofed through science
(30-03-2017 11:28 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(30-03-2017 11:14 AM)Heath_Tierney Wrote:  If the existence of a divine superintelligence could be proven (or disproven - a scientific impossibility) it would go a long, long way in reducing or eliminating religious-based wars and violent ideologues. Far from being useless, it would be the second-most important discovery in the history of the human race (the first being the existence of life, of whatever kind, on other planets).

how would we apply this knowledge?
let's say we already know - God exists. what is next?
Everyone who doesn't agree with that discovery would have to be killed.
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30-03-2017, 11:35 AM
RE: Claim: God has now been proofed through science
(30-03-2017 11:28 AM)Alla Wrote:  how would we apply this knowledge?
let's say we already know - God exists. what is next?

Depends which God.

If it's a Judaeo-Christian God, then all other religions would be null and void. If it's, for instance, a Hindu God, then all Abrahamic religions would be null and void. If there were are multitude of Gods then that would lead to undoubtedly other conflicts ("my God is better/more important than you God" type of stuff).

One of the countless arguments against the existence of a divine superintelligence is the lack of a clear answer. Just answering the question one way or another, with perfect certainty (impossible, I grant you) would be a vital achievement.

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30-03-2017, 11:46 AM
RE: Claim: God has now been proofed through science
Heath_Tierney Wrote:One of the countless arguments against the existence of a divine superintelligence is the lack of a clear answer.
Yes, this is very good argument against God's existence.

But this is my point. What if existence of God is proven scientifically. Let's say it is proven that some God has something to do with our reality.
But this God does not communicate with the scientists.
what's next? how can we apply this knowledge?

Heath_Tierney Wrote:Aside: I'm very glad to see your "rep points" are now in the positive. Very happy to see that, because I've always found you a pleasure to discuss things with, even if we don't always agree.
Thank you so much. I like you, too

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30-03-2017, 12:35 PM
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Here's a debunking from one of my favourite you tubers.

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30-03-2017, 04:20 PM
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(30-03-2017 11:12 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(30-03-2017 11:05 AM)kemo boy Wrote:  How can you say what use any new piece of knowledge might be?

I just ask myself: OK, now I know that there is God. Somebody proved it scientifically. How can I apply this knowledge?
Now I am asking you: any ideas? because I have none.

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30-03-2017, 04:26 PM
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(30-03-2017 04:20 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(30-03-2017 11:12 AM)Alla Wrote:  I just ask myself: OK, now I know that there is God. Somebody proved it scientifically. How can I apply this knowledge?
Now I am asking you: any ideas? because I have none.

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30-03-2017, 04:28 PM
RE: Claim: God has now been proofed through science
(30-03-2017 11:28 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(30-03-2017 11:14 AM)Heath_Tierney Wrote:  If the existence of a divine superintelligence could be proven (or disproven - a scientific impossibility) it would go a long, long way in reducing or eliminating religious-based wars and violent ideologues. Far from being useless, it would be the second-most important discovery in the history of the human race (the first being the existence of life, of whatever kind, on other planets).

how would we apply this knowledge?
let's say we already know - God exists. what is next?

Believers always have to dodge Question Zero: Can you prove any god or gods exist?
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30-03-2017, 06:33 PM
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(30-03-2017 04:28 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(30-03-2017 11:28 AM)Alla Wrote:  how would we apply this knowledge?
let's say we already know - God exists. what is next?

Believers always have to dodge Question Zero: Can you prove any god or gods exist?

no

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30-03-2017, 06:35 PM
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If there was proof of God faith wouldn't be the very first principle of religion

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