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24-03-2011, 12:49 PM (This post was last modified: 24-03-2011 01:03 PM by TrainWreck.)
RE: Classification Systems
Atheists need to sort their factions of thought, which can be accomplished, virtually, at Internet forums. Members need to identify as many ideologies that enter into their personal philosophy and effect their opinions on social issues. The forum is divided into peer review groups according to as many ideological "parties," or councils, as necessary, as well as the secular (general discussion area).

So, for a person who claims that they are a socialist, then their personal arguments, which may be in the general discussion area, are subject to review by the peer group that reviews socialism. This crapola of everyone having a different description for socialism, capitalism, determinism, cynicism, pragmatism, atheism, and every other -ism, is "wingnuttery." Thus far, the only thing atheists can determine is what theism is - nothing else - nothing.

I realize this probably gets complicated, because any individual person, of integrity, is going to have several ideologies that they recognize as influencing their opinion - and that has to be sorted out, as well. But eventually, it will happen. The theists are several steps ahead of atheists, in that they can determine their ideologies, and are, not in the least, afraid to set-up their peer review in such accord, and being so prepared will help lead them to "cleaning-up their houses," of what is their logic systems.

Humanism - ontological doctrine that posits that humans define reality
Theism - ontological doctrine that posits a supernatural entity creates and defines reality
Atheism - political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine in public policy
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25-03-2011, 01:01 AM
RE: Classification Systems
I don't see much difference in how it is organised now...

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25-03-2011, 02:43 PM
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What kind of results have you noticed?

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25-03-2011, 03:58 PM
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(25-03-2011 02:43 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  What kind of results have you noticed?
Results that are to be expected from an organization that is only about 10 years in the picture and on cruising altitude.

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27-03-2011, 11:30 AM
RE: Classification Systems
well, you're welcome.

Humanism - ontological doctrine that posits that humans define reality
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27-03-2011, 08:38 PM (This post was last modified: 27-03-2011 08:44 PM by Chesstime.)
RE: Classification Systems
(21-03-2011 04:59 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  A "logical" standardized classification system of knowledge is probably necessary for the critical evaluation of arguments, but there is no system in existence that is used as a reference; and so, many, if not all, our arguments are plagued with category errors, and so nothing really gets settled. This is an obvious ailment of Internet discussion groups, and one that concerned me in the first place to argue that atheists have a serious problem with category error that confines them in a 'mirror reflection" of the erroneous reasoning of the theists when it comes to social-political discussions. Basically, religions are ideologies and should be understood as no different then a political ideologies, and that in turn will subject religions to the scrutiny, and laboratory setting (segregated communities), that atheists like to subject things to. But atheists have to understand that they have to organize community autonomously from theists, but atheists are no where near ready to do that; and besides that, when atheists set up the curriculum of their schools they will have to "eat crow," about teaching creationism, because the students are going to have to be informed about the theory in order to recognize when it is deployed.

Now, my objective at this time, is for atheists to cease their petty arguments about church and state, and move on to promoting a new classification system. I have tried in the past to encourage atheists to develop their own systems, but atheists do not seem to understand the necessity, and seemingly they are leaving it to the Christians to approve a new system, which will be mine because it is probably "scientifically logical.".

Creationism is NOT a Theory! It is NONSENSE! as this entire post of yours is!

Furthermore; You keep using the word Atheists as if We are all in your neat little bucket of definitions.

You sir should "START Eating Crow" now to hide the smell of the crap that must come out of your mouth, when it's not coming off your fingers.

Further still!" atheists to cease their petty arguments about church and state, and move on to promoting a new classification system." EXCUSE ME!?" Separation Of Church and State is Not Petty! For that I call you an ASS!

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28-03-2011, 11:07 AM
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Not only do I suffer from Facebook depression, but atheists won't accept me, because I think differently then all of them.

I made my argument, you have the opportunity to prove me wrong by setting-up a segregated atheist community in full control of the school's curriculum, that probably, better not even mention "Creationism." I assure you, there will be monitors, and if any teacher mentions, "Creationism," the school will loose any and all of its federal sanctioning.

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Atheism - political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine in public policy
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28-03-2011, 01:00 PM
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(28-03-2011 11:07 AM)TrainWreck Wrote:  Not only do I suffer from Facebook depression, but atheists won't accept me, because I think differently then all of them.

I made my argument, you have the opportunity to prove me wrong by setting-up a segregated atheist community in full control of the school's curriculum, that probably, better not even mention "Creationism." I assure you, there will be monitors, and if any teacher mentions, "Creationism," the school will loose any and all of its federal sanctioning.

Correction: You assume you think differently than all atheists. As for your second paragraph....I, for one, am fine with mentioning creationism in public schools. Just as long as it's taught to our children as a belief system that some people have, and not science. I WANT my kids to recognize that different people have different beliefs.

Trainwreck, I am sorry to say, you are a fool. To believe anyone, regardless of belief, gender, race, occupation, or any other difference, will accept your classification system when you present it the way you do is ludicrous. (and also a little sad) You'll never be seen as the genius you claim to be if you continue to interact like a child. (A spoiled, self-rightious
child at that) You have some interesting opinions. Why don't you put on your big-boy pants, and come share those ideas with the adults?

Just visiting.

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28-03-2011, 11:39 PM
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(28-03-2011 11:07 AM)TrainWreck Wrote:  Not only do I suffer from Facebook depression, but atheists won't accept me, because I think differently then all of them.

I made my argument, you have the opportunity to prove me wrong by setting-up a segregated atheist community in full control of the school's curriculum, that probably, better not even mention "Creationism." I assure you, there will be monitors, and if any teacher mentions, "Creationism," the school will loose any and all of its federal sanctioning.

You also made an insult by telling "Us Atheist" that "We will Have to Eat Crow"! This is not an "Argument" you are making. This is a Self Righteous "Demand". Furthermore; You are not simply asking our opinion on your "System"; You instead are attempting to "Shove it down our throats"! Just like Creationists do!

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28-03-2011, 11:59 PM
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I'm wondering if TrainWreck goes by the name "Batabii" anywhere else.

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