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24-04-2017, 03:01 PM
Climate Change - General Discussion
We just need to crank the AC units up and cool the earth back down.
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24-04-2017, 03:21 PM
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(24-04-2017 03:01 PM)KUSA Wrote:  We just need to crank the AC units up and cool the earth back down.

Facepalm

It's like my friend who unironically said, 'there are hungry, starving people in Africa, we should just bring them all to Texas because we've got plenty of room and food.'


But as if to knock me down, reality came around
And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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24-04-2017, 04:30 PM
Climate Change - General Discussion
(24-04-2017 03:21 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(24-04-2017 03:01 PM)KUSA Wrote:  We just need to crank the AC units up and cool the earth back down.

Facepalm

It's like my friend who unironically said, 'there are hungry, starving people in Africa, we should just bring them all to Texas because we've got plenty of room and food.'


It was meant to be a face palm.
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27-04-2017, 07:20 AM
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"Pres. Donald Trump’s administration has announced plans to dismantle an array of federal efforts to fight global warming, including a program to reduce carbon emissions from coal-fired power plants, a rule limiting methane gas leaks and a mandate that aggressively boosts auto emissions standards."

"But Trump officials face a major roadblock in their efforts, legal scholars say. It is the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s 2009 formal 'endangerment finding,' which states carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases emitted from smokestacks and other man-made sources 'threaten the public health and welfare of current and future generations.' This agency rule, supported by two Supreme Court decisions, legally compels the government to do exactly what its new leaders want to avoid: regulate greenhouse gases. Although EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt publicly doubts a connection between human-produced carbon emissions and global warming, any attempt to undo this rule 'would be walking into a legal buzz saw,' says Michael Gerrard, faculty director of the Sabin Center for Climate Change Law at Columbia University. Endangerment is 'the linchpin for everything—all of the carbon regulation under the Clean Air Act,' says Patrick Parenteau, a professor of environmental law at Vermont Law School."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...GYSUS_NEWS
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27-04-2017, 07:53 AM (This post was last modified: 27-04-2017 08:03 AM by Kaneda.)
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(24-04-2017 03:01 PM)KUSA Wrote:  We just need to crank the AC units up and cool the earth back down.


There was an news story going around not too long ago claiming scientists had a diabolical plan to 're-freeze the Arctic.' We will most certainly be hearing more and more crazy proposals like this on the years to come.

Me, I personally like the plan where we mine for space ice every few years to drop into the ocean, thus solving the problem once and for all...




“We must, however, acknowledge, as it seems to me, that man with all his noble qualities... still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin.” ~Darwin
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27-04-2017, 08:01 AM (This post was last modified: 27-04-2017 08:15 AM by Kaneda.)
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"Scientists Have Announced a Plan to 'refreeze' the Arctic - and It's Wild"


"Desperate times call for desperate measures, and with temperatures near the North Pole hitting an unheard-of 20°C (36°F) warmer than average last year, things in the Arctic are undeniably grim right now.

But rather than sit by and watch as the sea ice disappears from the region at an unprecedented rate, scientists have hatched a crazy plan to 'refreeze' the Arctic, by installing some 10 million wind-powered pumps over the ice cap to spray sea water over the surface and replenish the sea ice."

http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-h...-it-s-wild


This sounds ridiculous. It probably is. Somebody blow a hole through this one, please.

“We must, however, acknowledge, as it seems to me, that man with all his noble qualities... still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin.” ~Darwin
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27-04-2017, 08:11 AM
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(27-04-2017 08:01 AM)Kaneda Wrote:  Delete.

Like this?



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27-04-2017, 08:37 AM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
This week, in my home town:

It's been Sunny as hell, Rainy, snowy and overcast. Some times all within the a few hours each. I live in England...and it's supposed to be almost May. If that's not evidence of climate change...

I don't want Fop, goddamn it! I'm a Dapper Dan man!
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27-04-2017, 03:33 PM (This post was last modified: 27-04-2017 05:41 PM by Thoreauvian.)
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To the executive editor

The New York Times

27 April 2017, via email

Dear editor,

I am a climate researcher, professor for physics of the oceans and have worked for eight years as advisor to the German government on global change issues. I regret to have to tell you that hereby I cancel my subscription to the New York Times in the wake of you hiring columnist Bret Stephens. Let me explain my reasons.

When Stephens was hired I wrote to you in protest about his spreading of untruths about climate change, saying “I enjoy reading different opinions from my own, but this is not a matter of different opinions.” I did not cancel then but decided to wait and see. However, the subsequent public defense by the New York Times of the hiring of Stephens has convinced me that the problem at the Times goes much deeper than a single error of judgement. It concerns its attitude towards seeking the truth.

The Times argued that “millions agree with Stephens”. It made me wonder what’s next – when are you hiring a columnist claiming that the sun and the stars revolve around the Earth, because millions agree with that? My heroes are Copernicus, Galilei and Kepler, who sought the scientific truth based on observational evidence and defended it against the powerful authority of the church in Rome, at great personal cost. Had the New York Times existed then – would you have seen it as part of your mission to insult and denigrate these scientists, as Stephens has done with climate scientists?

The Times has denounced the critics of its decision as “left-leaning”. This is an insult to me and was the final straw to cancel my subscription. There is no left-leaning or right-leaning climate science, just as there is no republican or democrat theory of gravity. I have several good climate scientist friends who have been lifelong republicans. Their understanding of climate change does not differ from mine, because it is informed by the evidence.

Quite unlike Stephens’ views on climate change, which run counter to all evidence. He is simply repeating falsehoods spread by various “think tanks” funded by the fossil fuel industry.

In December 2015, Stephens called global warming “imperceptible” and the Paris climate summit a “meeting to combat a notional enemy in the same place where a real enemy just inflicted so much mortal damage”. My colleagues and I have analysed 150,000 temperature time series from around the world, finding that monthly heat records occur five times more often now as a result of global warming than in an unchanging climate (Coumou et al, published in Climatic Change 2013). One of those record-hot months was August 2003 in western Europe. 70,000 people died due to this heat wave. Was global warming “imperceptible” to these people and the ones they left behind? On 15 August 2003, the New York Times reported: “So many bodies were delivered in recent weeks to the Paris morgue that refrigerated tents had to be erected outside the city to accommodate them all.” Was that just a “notional” problem?

Stephens doubts that global warming will continue, claiming that in hundred years “temperatures will be about the same”. That is a shockingly ignorant statement, ignoring over a century of climate science. Our emissions increase the level of CO2 in the atmosphere, it is higher now than in at least 3 million years. CO2 is a greenhouse gas, as demonstrated first in the year 1859 by physicist John Tyndall. CO2 traps heat – more CO2 means a warmer climate. That is basic physics, borne out by the history of climate. Denying these well-established facts is about as smart as claiming the Earth is flat, and best left to cranks, ideologues and fossil fuel lobbyists.

Stephens has claimed that “in the 1970s we were supposed to believe in global cooling.” That’s an age-old climate denier myth. It would have cost Stephens just 60 seconds with Google to find out it is wrong. (Try and google “Did scientists predict an ice age in the 1970s”.) But Stephens is clearly not interested in evidence or seeking the truth about matters.

Last Friday, you sent me an email with the subject: “The truth is more important now than ever.” It made me cringe seeing this in my inbox. It said “thank you for supporting news without fear or favor.” The hypocrisy of that is unbearable, and I will support your newspaper no more. Instead, I will give the money to ClimateFeedback.org, a worldwide network of scientists sorting fact from fiction in climate change media coverage. It is much better invested there.

Best regards,

Prof. Stefan Rahmstorf

https://climatecrocks.com/2017/04/27/cli...el-my-sub/
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27-04-2017, 03:36 PM
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^^If I weren't such an upright guy, I would make several sock puppet accounts just so I could like that more than once.

“We must, however, acknowledge, as it seems to me, that man with all his noble qualities... still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin.” ~Darwin
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